F-4F at 12.7 with basic 9L’s. Literally dead on arrival.
This stupid thing would have been mid at 12.3 with 9L(i)-1’s ffs. Whats the worst jet it can face? the EJ Kai I think?! In a full downtier?
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Saw the Leo 2A7HU on the dev stream. Who wants to bet that, unlike the 2A7V, it actually gets D-tech armor?
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Italy is now the new Germany 2.0
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You should play it then if Italy so stronk.
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I might do it they got F-16, mig 29 and Jas for top tier Germany is still stuck with mig 29 and the ICE will face su 27 and f 15s, in ground Italy with that 2a7 which will be better than the German one will make Italy actually strong.
I assume that the Hu won’t be much different from the A7V.
I also don’t think it will attract significantly more players to play in Italy.
The 11.7 Linuep from Italy is still too weak.
The new Phantom… It simply lacks the L(i) Aims. Only the snail knows why they aren’t there.
And the only way to know whether it will perform well on 12.7 is to see how much the AIIM 120 changes the game.
The F-4F ICE would have been better as a 12.3 premium, as much as it would suck being a premium. There’s just no way the amraam can offset it being on a phantom. It’s just going to get violated by everything else.
It would be ok at 12.0 if they would try to gave us a real ICE, and not that thing they showed us, sure some stuff might WIP but bro… thats just a punch in the face
where is the Aim-9L/I aka AIm-9M???
why does it get AGM-65Bs and not D or G, yes we have sources and gaijin has then too, like a year alleady and here we are with Bs…
it must be a fricking joke
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Maybe Italy now turning better than Germany very soon
tbh this is what I’m scared the most but it finally here
F4F ICE not gonna perform well against advance jet (despite Dutch should be for German air tree not France that their mirage gonna get MICA which gonna do just fine)
and Leopard 2A7HU? well no comment i’m really sad for German but also happy for Italy at the same time
I only hope at least they should get correct armor along 2A7V german that the very least i can wish for
F-4F KWS you are German mains at least give its correct designation.
I see it as an upgraded F-4S that can hang at top tier.
Instead you get a better Radar and all aspect missiles. The Phantom is still very capable.
With the reduced team sizes even more so.
You are aware both designations are correct, yea? ICE is the English translation of KWS (Improved Combat Efficiency).
I see it as an upgraded F-4S that can hang at top tier.
It can? It doesn’t even get IRCCM missiles and it’s still an F-4 at the end of the day. It’s DOA dude.
F-4S is 11.3, the worst it sees are R-60MKs.
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We shall see, its a definite upgrade, what else could Gaijin have given you?
IRCCM missiles maybe? How about better Mavericks too?
It’s as much of an upgrade as Pz. 2F is over the Pz. 2C
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Bro wth, ICE have worse RWR then F4E on dev stream.
Worst RWR and no IRCCM missiles, Amazing job gaijin…
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If you wanna be like that, its the F-4F Kampfwertsteigerung Luftverteidigung
Behave an aim9L rear aspect is hard to defeat.
The Aim120 and Radar are the selling points
Smaller teams you dont need to dogfight.
Yes like the Tornado it wont be meta
Its really not…
No IFF interrogator on the radar apparently
It’s not?
The Aim120 and Radar are the selling points
Doesn’t matter when multipath is the same as always, you can just hug the ground and the “selling point” is dead weight.
Yes like the Tornado it wont be meta
This is beyond “not being meta”, ICE is completely DOA. Worse IR missiles, less CMs, worse RWR.
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Thats a bug it uses the FA-18 radar APG 65Y