Yes, the PT16/T14 mod. likely had thermals as well.
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Issues is when it uses materials that arent the ones normally used for the calculations requires for example i could Say DM53 penetrates 730 mm of armor against a RHAe but its not a semi infinite target wich means it can be only 690 against composite, if i use this type of formula it’s gonna be unconsistant and unbalanced for the game, that’s why long rod penetrator formula uses semi infinite targets to calculate penetration it allows for a consistant target penetration values and the L27A1 has a 605mm of lenght wich means penetration against semi infinite targets shouldn’t penetrate more than those 605 mm of lenght, the penetration can be calculate by shell density in this case
Quick question, do you know how D.U APFSDS works?
It is still wrong and everyone knows it, its easily proven that the uk cannon performs worse.
Hell the easiest proof is the decision to change to the german L/55a1 smoothbore. Becauee their rifled cannons werent able to keep up.
If their performance would have been equal UK would have stayed with their own cannon to keep the economic power in their own country.
Same reason they are developing Challenger 3 and arent just getting Leo 2a8s in the first place
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i thought it was due to a lack of funding D:
I do perfectly know how it works, it may penetrate that ammount of RHAe but who knows how it does against ERA, NERA and cerámic that’s why the performance calculated with semi infinite targets, it has a limit for the mechanical strenght it can apply and be subjected
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I mean look at uk, german history.
UK normal abhors using german weaponry if the project wasnt planned together from the start.
Taurus/ shadow storm
Or tornados had different kinds of mine dispensers
It wasnt realy lack of funding in this case.
Like i said if its because of lack of funding just buying Leo 2a8s would have been cheaper then developing challenger 3s
USSR says 3BM22 can pen 1000mm of armor.
Must be true right?
The fact you call Willi Odermatt a liar is an insult to physicists and mathematicians everywhere.
T33 isn’t APFSDS, and not applicable to Willi Odermatt, which Gaijin knows, and everyone else knows.
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so you know to ad 20% to penetration of a D.U penetrator :D
Thats not how it works
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Just because a dart is DU doesn’t mean its automatically 20% better…
The reason DU is used is partly because its cheap, can self sharpen at lower velocities and is rather easy to come by if a nation has a nuclear program. (there are many other reasons too)
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Guys guys, I can only like so many posts.
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Meant 20% stronger than tungsten
the reason its used is because its simply better, and penetrates more. Its 20% stronger than tungsten. and it melts anyone and anything hit by the rod fragments.
That’s depending on certain stuff, gaijin has already added extra pens on shells with DU like M829A3, and type 10 round wich btw has a tungsten alloy that acts like DU, the thing is that lanz oddermatt fórmula dosent allow you to surpass your Shell lenght in penetration
That still doesn’t mean anything. “strength” is dependent on material properties, which can be altered using alloys.
Nowhere in the calculator is a “strength” unit.
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Yeah if lanz oddermatt fórmula used strenght it would make physics pretty damn complex for war thunder and would change pen in a Lot of shells
yeah this is true, but at the same time no one knows how strong those alloys in the tanks are. some of the alloys could reduce the penetration by 5% or 15% i don’t know much about this :)
Alloys arent a thing in wt cuz of oddermatt fórmula it has, Steel, DU and tungsten, if it went specific it would add extra properties that need to be accounted for penetration, the formula is meant to be simple
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i thought gaijin gave NERA like 1.5 the strength off steel or something
Yeah oddermatt fórmula calculates only against RHA targets but You can change hardness strenght and density of such target aswell as other properties, to simulate this gaijin just modified materials ingame to be as similar as possible as irl materials, still it’s pretty simple and constant pen