Lets talk about the state of Germany

what’s the aim, surely you can’t have that much trouble dealing with germans lmao

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nope its just funny

Whatever you say mate

Played a lot of Russia recently after stepping back from the feces fest that is 11.3+ Brits.

Stepped away from Russia to grind the rest of top tier Germany, and holy fuck i forgot how bad it is playing against Russia.

Pantsir & SU25SM3 absolutely dominate the air, no other nation can touch that level of superiority.

How the heck am I suppose to grind my German tree if the Russians ensure air superiority in less than 5 minutes?

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Tbf whenever I get a bit ballsy and feel like playing anything besides a 2a7 or UHT, then I am left with the IDS, the tornado that is the only other German CAS aircraft really worth considering at top tier and boy is it a bad one, considering using the phantom instead since at least you can stand off with mavericks and you have some zunis for in and out runs on spaa.

I really think we should see the addition of a foreign aircraft in the same vein as the SAAF Gripen in the form of either:
an Argentinian Block 20 MLU with Sidewinders, Amraams, GBUs and Mavericks
a Swiss F/A-18C with the same armament as listed above
a Polish F-16D (they could essentially use the model of the Barak II despite the differences between the block 40 and the block 52) with the same armament but access to Mavericks for some stand off capability.

These all act as a stop gap for the Tornado ASSTA 3 with some form of HARM or Stand off missiles and the EFTs with their amazing air to ground ordinance, can this thread let me know in the replies which sounds the most feasible out of these 3?

thats the part where i should mention that swiss F/A 18C only use A2A armament and dont use A2G one.

Generaly the A2G Hornets were the E/F variants Super Hornets. Not all C variants or older were updated with A2G capability

Poland propably wont be further additions for the german tree

The only stand off missles it would get would either be glide bombs or taurus missles

well brimstones will be the most logical option how and if they get implemented into war thunder is questionable

So realy the only immediate option for what u are looking for would be the argentinian F-16s

Also Swiss vehicles shouldn’t go to Germany anyway.

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jokes on you its most likely now lol.

France is getting the whole benelux now and switz going to germany makes the most sense now

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I just hope gajin keeps at the one mistake they made on that front.

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Germany should get the Dutch

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i mean look at the UK and them complaining about indian. Does it look like gajin cares lol?
Besides that switzerland for germany isnt a mistake. The only problematic thing behind the whole thing was the addition itself being a Hunter which UK playerbase asked for. Any other switz vehicle nobody would have cared

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we wont that was confirmed by smin some time ago, and the leak gives benelux to france now

It is though, there is no reason for them beeing in the german tech tree, they share nothing.

Yes I know. That doesn’t change that they SHOULD get the Dutch. The whole Dutch army is integrated into the Bundeswehr and the Leopard 2s the Dutch use are still owned by the Germans. France will quite literally have Leopard 2s that are owned by Germany in their tech tree which makes no sense at all

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are u ignoring the literal leoaprds in switzerland lol? Besides cultural and language stuff

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Swiss don’t have the same culture and not even the same language.
Leopard is about the only German vehicle currently in service.

u dont seem to know anything of swiss lol, we share cultural stuff and germany is switz main language lol

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I am Swiss but whatever bro, go to Germany and talk Swiss-German and see how well they understand.

Well when the Majority of Europe uses Leopard 2s… Germany mainly needs a sub tech tree for air. Their best Air superiority and CAS until the EFT is the F4F ICE (most likely next update) and the Tornado IDS.

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Bro what? 60% of Switzerland use German / Swiss German as their primary language. Go to Bavaria and speak swiss German and there is a pretty decent chance they will understand you, maybe not everything but enough to communicate. Same with Austria, swiss German isn’t foreign enough that German speakers wont even understand you.

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