Lets talk about the state of Germany

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Yes shooting my lfp should nuke my entire healthy crew, nothing wrong here comrade xD

Best part was spalling was so ridicilous that it managed to kill my loader as well.

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Honestly
We all know its bs, gaijooble does it probably as well

but i they have to make nato tanks look weak and russian tanks look strong
cuz thats the only chance to show “positive” things about russia

And im fairly certain i will get a “break” for that sentence lol

no but the russian player base is like the worst overall

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I was playing Leopards the last days. They don’t make fun anymore. It doesn’t matter where and how you get hit. The spall cones are always that huge, they always kill everyone inside the tank. Its just about not to get seen, you cannot survive any hit. Even very bad ones kill you. We all know most maps just promote direct frontal combat…its disgusting. This nerf needs to be reversed, especially when you consider that most darts have no issues penning Leopard 2’s.

its maybe just my perception, but I also somehow suffered lose streaks vs. russians. Something I hadn’t since a while. Almost no won matches.

I also don’t understand why they bothered to model Leopard 2A7 spall liners, just to reduce the effectivness to a point where it almost don’t matter anymore. I don see an ingame difference beteen all the Leopard 2’s. You get penetrated and its over.

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After the latest “fix” (nerf) to Leo’s spalling I get 85% to 90% one shotted. From the front when penetrated which isn’t rare anymore or side. Also, remember that 2A7V’s supposed to be way more survivable but it overperformed the USSR tanks so here we are, no spall liner working, getting one shotted most of the time.

That’s not even the case tbh. The only reason it was perceived to be “overpowered” (it is underperforming and always has been) is due to the fact that Russian mains had to actually learn how to aim. They couldn’t just pen the tank anywhere (besides turret cheeks) at almost any range. But when it’s Russian tanks and we complain about Russian tanks being overpowered and how they are severely over performing they just hit us with “get better learn to aim”. It’s extremely annoying that gaijin shows so much Bias to Russia (most recent report that got the Leo 2 nerfed is a prime example)

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Just making spall liners not working can’t be it. Also that community always seems to be fine with these stunts is quite telling.

Where is the tech progression then? Leopard 27AV plays not differenty to any previous model now. Except its somehow much slower. The same glass cannon. One hit = taken out.

This is pretty much the case for every nation except maybe Russia. Tech progression stops at 11.3, or even before that, for most western nations in this game.

EDIT: should add that I mean in game. Thinking that the west didn’t develop any new tech/weaponry since the 90s is ridiculous.

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At this point it just seems like gaijin is trying to make a reversed realism game. The leopard 2s are known for being well armored and mobile? Make them sluggish glass cannons. The Abrams is known for being extremely survivable with good ammo? Make it incredibly fragile with mediocre ammo. The russian T series MBTs are known for being deathtraps with severe design flaws that make them almost always catastrophically fail when penetrated? Make them almost indestructible. I’m surprised someone hasn’t sued the devs for false advertising at this point.

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Exactly! Got the words from my mouth thank you, and also the breech shots lead to one shot kills a lot as well. We need to learn their weak points and aim perfectly meanwhile they hold W to point and click at us

Never could and still can’t.

You literally can. The only way you can’t is if you’re so unbelievably bad that you shoot at the 3 pixel thick line of actual armor on the Leo 2A7V’s hull.

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Btw, the Leo 2A7V’s spall liners have officially become non functional. (feel free to use my clip in any bug reports)

if you lower its the same thing dosent even need to be right on a crewmember lol

I’m aware

All this extra weight of the 2A7V, which greatly impairs ingame mobility, obviously for nothing. I don’t feel any difference between protection / survivability of the A6 and A7V.

Also what sense makes this sophisticated damage model in War Thunder, when everything is dead after one hit anyways?

Also stuff like repair mates and so on. Have you lately tried to do repair assist tasks at top tier Germany? I played 5 matches a row and gave up, cause not a single teammate requiered repairs. All die if penetrated.

Wait we don’t do facts and evidence here.

I’d like to know what he did to get those results, because this is quite far from what the T-80BVM behaves like in live gameplay when hit.

Shot at T-80BVM

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