Lets talk about the state of Germany

Win rates is team skill. KDR is a player skill. KDR ratio among like-tanks per account is what determines if something’s OP.

@Commodus6504
Soviet player skill is about the same as always. No explosion in win rate.
And likely other players already told you this.

@Murica_guy4883
Tanks spall identically [within X parameters] in all game modes, even in the test drive.

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because in live gameplay you also get shit like desync ping and other stuff working + the volumetric magic

And its probably safe to say that the servers from gaijin aren’t the best ones out there…

Imagine tossing thousands of Turrets into sky high in the field of Ukraine and still think their tanks are superior lol in the past Leopard also send their turret flying too but seem German accepted that flaws and improved Leopard 2 survivability Russian’s tanks? still the same for almost six decades and not changes

That is a very oversimplified way of looking at things

No where to prove how well war machines doing better than battle ground and Russia tanks proved to be total failure because of same flaws that exist almost six decades while Germans fixed that flaws with DM53A1 and DM63

the flaw of having ammo in the hull DM53A1 and DM63 was the main fix for that issue and well its going pretty well thanks to that tbh

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i know but gaijooble has to keep up with “russia good, nato bad” stuff …
I mean we can see it everywhere … xD

And you are on the other side of that spectrum.
Nato good, russia bad.

From throughout the history Russian’s equipment rarely show it superiority over NATO equivalent in real combat from Israil-arab war to War in Ukraine
Also the same flaws exist in Russian tanks for almost six decade still exist even in newest model of Russia tanks hardly think otherwise from the country that let the same flaws from the past still exist in the new model

nah i think what i want to think
And what you can see in the WWW is the usual ru tanks ejecting crew+ turret after a penetrating hit.

yes yes now you gonna show the posts about the turks with leopards (ammo doors welded to stay open)
or arabs in m1’s etc

I also saw an awful lot of nato equipment burning in the last few months…
Real war is not war thunder.

Even with those pictures is anyone dare to talk about casualties rate? People can show picture of turk’s Leopard or Arab’s Abrams all they want but dare to mention casualties rate?
What make in worse is when country that manufacture the said vehicles still perform poorly in them?

Difference with that NATO equipment is that often the crew survived instead of being turned to dust or sent into space alongside the turret

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To compare burning down to blowing up, i’ve seen nato equipments work in keeping the crew alive, which means keeping a well-trained crew is better than keeping a tank, since the tank can be replaced a well trained crew cant

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The vehicle is still inoperable, i don’t see the revelance to war thunder.

You’re telling me you couldn’t one the UFP of 2A6? That’s odd

yall were talking of overall superiority on the tanks, im comparing them tbh i would rather be in a NATO tank than in a russian tank, its just more survivable, T90M hasnt advanced much either just thicker armor and spall liners, meanwhile the transmission it could’ve gotten and never got its still pending, they still decided to use hydraulic horizontal drive, their FCS its still outdated even tho they upgraded their T90M FCS, and their overall mobility isnt much better

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i wont deny they were pretty advanced at their time but they got stuck and couldnt keep up, mostly because of the fall of the soviet union and how their projects got delayed or lost, cool tanks but to modern standards they are not so good anymore

Me too.
We know for a long time they don’t have their focus on crew surviveability in their tank construction.
But it’s the same coping since 1943 “T34 so bad compared to our mighty tiger, but hanz we are still losing zee warrr.”

2A7 is far superior to the T90M also in war thunder, so i don’t see the issue.

Tanks became more vulnerable to all different kind of equipment anyway.
Just look at the cheap drones and thats only one of many examples.