Lets talk about the state of Germany

Thats from 2023…

Man im asking You to know how Did You shoot at it to bounce on the side?, cuz Even on pso and strv122B+ side it has never happened to me

I didn’t say bounce, i say eat.

Then how Did it eat it?

How about how does it happen enough to him to think it’s consistent, because I don’t buy that for one second

Check out my post. The win rate of the Russian tanks has almost exploded. The German tanks were deliberately nerfed recently. With the most ridiculous “error message” in War Thunder history.

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i said that

fuel tank or volumetric etc etc

happens yes
but on leopards its rather rare

And the handout of the new missle to stay out of range …
And the buff to fantasy 90m etc

But nice to see that russia is close to 60% again :D

A lot of times you shoot a leo in the side, he first of all survives and second has time to retaliate even if you kill crew members.
I even had it multiple times, that i shoot the turret ring from the front and the round flies straight through to the engine, making the turret ring yellow and not even killing a crew member.

It’s not just the russian tanks which eat weird shots sometimes.

That plus the Pantsir being the only thing that can effectively counter the SU25SM3 because no one else gets any other form of AA

If you can’t at a minimum take out the gunner commander and or the breach in a side shot you are genuinely just bad

Leos are still easy the most survivable tanks at the moment.
I guess the new frogfoot had a good impact on russian winrates.

Or do it like i do and just team up with a german playing friend lol.

Remember, pantsir isn’t the best spaa in the game xD

Yes, i am a very bad player bro.

That’s not the game being RNG that’s just your bad aim

Pre-nerf or post-nerf? I haven’t survived that many side shots in my spall lined 2A7V ever since KEP spall buffs & Leo 2 spall nerfs (which happened ± 2 weeks ago). On the other hand, I’ve had T-90Ms eat side shot after side shot yesterday…

It’s not just the russian tanks which eat weird shots sometimes.

As of recent, it is mostly them. For the most part, the T-90M. To a lesser extent, the BVM which doesn’t even have spall liners… (meanwhile 2A6 & SEP quite literally can’t take a shot without dying, the former thanks to some Russian main having bad shot placement & crying about it, the latter cause I dunno).

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The Frogfoot had no influence on my win rate. It crashed after Leo supposedly generated too few spalls and the “bug” was fixed. Since then, my Leo A7 has been a oneshot as soon as you hit the gun mantlet. Interestingly, the tank now completely fills with shrapnel as soon as you penetrate its armor. Great.

Sorry but brother that screenshot is from 2023.

That’s been the norm since forever. Leopard 2s are the only MBTs in the game with an additional spall modifier for the mantlet & breech… the only ones. People tried reporting that years back, always either “not a bug” or “works as intended”.

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idk how you even manage to avoid the side of the hull and turret and hit the only place where its just tight enough to affect an apfsds by volumetrics, tbh idk what to think about that

You are right :-).

I was completely wrong. However, the win rate numbers matched exactly those that I can read in my account.