Lets talk about the state of Germany

well its rather obv that russian stuff is garbage, as you see in rl and shown ingame to a degree,hence the fantasy buffs and nato stuff works as expected, hence the nerfs
but at one point, that it reached it long ago, its just became? more and more obvious that gaijin favours russia and gives them all the handholding they need…

I mean russian tanks are known for 2 things

  1. they are dirt cheap
  2. the stuff they can is greatly overestimated (after all russia can’t have worse tanks then nato xaxa)
  3. they throw the turret when penetrated and the crew gets vaporized…
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Elevation speed and gunner optics :D

well they are already at it

with that…
so i guess we will find out sooner or later what or how they nerf it xD

You see comrade we will model detailed internal compartment for Abrams and Leopards so we can nerf them more Meanwhile Russian autoloaders will keep working under any situation xd

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Why every time i get here i get slapped with the news of a random nerf for german vehicles for absolutely no reason what next increase the Br of Pz. IV bc they have good cannons, more nerfs to the 229 bc why not, or randomly nerf the Leo2s armour and mobility for no reason

I don’t get it.

Isn’t he sharing a diagram that agrees with Western sources as well as Gaijin’s implementation of the Leopard 2A4 turret protection?

The diagram is fake. Also pay attention to head-on protection; it’s only 350mm RHAe vs KE instead of the real ~430 - 440mm.

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dude faked sources? Things like this should be a ban for writing reports and writing on the forum

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i agree faking official information is already a crime in official documents from countries so idk why here it shouldnt go without punishment

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Nah he’s too dumb for that. He got it from a chinese blog. You can still find it there, you can also find it on the Sturgeon House forum where a user ‘Wiedzmin’ debunked it.

Here:

https://sturgeonshouse.ipbhost.com/topic/1527-the-leopard-2-thread/page/28/

Take a look for yourself.

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damn that looks like the old forum.

But it says B-technologie.

350mm vs KE @ 60° frontal arc vs KE is correct based on available sources, as is 700mm vs CE @ 60° frontal arc.
The arrow pointing towards the turret cheek is at the same 30° offset as the arrows pointing towards turret side protection, I don’t think the author of that diagram is implying the armour only reaches 350mm head-on.

B-tech it’s used by leopard 2A3 models C it’s used by 2A4

False.

The Leopard 2A4 only received improved intergrated hull and turret protection by the 6th batch in 1988.
Previously built Leopard 2A4’s featured B-technologie intergrated armour packages.

sources?, just got clarification that’s my bad didnt knew the 2a4 ingame uses B tech

Maybe, but it’s pretty vague tbh so better safe than sorry.

image

Maybe it’s your language, think about it.

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Wait, what nerf?

I’m bored… here are some weird German M48s

Spoiler

M48A2 with M47’s cannon

M48GA1 with MB-837 (no DM23)

M48A2 (GT 601-750)
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I don’t read all the patch notes.
However, after the last rounds with my Leos went so well that I had lost almost every long-distance duel through oneshots. By the way, simply when shooting at the gun mantlet.

I moved to the forum. And lo and behold: Apparently there was another “balance nerf”. Great! A leopard that can take a hit was probably too much for the poor souls… And of course you nerf all the Leos, so that the earlier variants can no longer take anything. It’s sooo annoying.

You have to aim at a pixel on T90 and T82 so that a shot goes through. And even then, Stalinium likes to decide that this isn’t possible today. You don’t experience anything like that with tanks from other nations.

When I first started out, I only used arcade mode. I always said that everyone was imagining it. Russian bias blah blah blah. And then I tried it out and accepted: Yes, Russian tanks are easy mode in War Thunder. I accepted it. And then I put the Russians aside again and started with RB. But sometimes it’s frustrating.

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