I can no longer stay quiet, the devs are ATROCIOUS. This is either prime incompetency or straight up malice on their part.
You can see the INNER turret ring on the Leopard 2A5 now!
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Actual Leopard 2 “gap” (real life - raises only at the front to make space, this is not modelled in WT due to the usage of outdated models) where the turret ring is not visible versus Gaijin’s Leopard 2 - > exposed turret turret.
edit: it’s not modelled on the newest additions either, so it’s a universal issue dating back to 2019…
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Made a report, but i’m not expecting anything…
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/zflvYc6wLQLV
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Theyre gonna say the 2A7 isnt a 2A5 and close the bug report. Heres a 2A5 where you can see the turret sits flush with the hull instead of floating like it does in-game:
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expected nothing less then another few nerfs for germany
The devs never disappoint me in that regard
So we got the engine power nerf for the Bagel, gunhandling nerf for the PUMA and turret ring height nerf for the Leopard 2A5. Just amazing…
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i didnt even hear about the handling nerf on the puma
Triple nerf this update for germany lmao how obvious can they make it they hate germany
Went from 60/60 (60 vertical and 60 horizontal) to 45/45. I guess they atleast fixed the mass of its APFSDS…
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was it always like that ?
or is it new ?
Also seems like they fixed the turret
the new and improved armor hole :D
Is there a 2-4 mils source? For the 2a42 itself, I saw only 1 source with accuracy and it gives values of 0.4 to 0.5 mils.
Spoiler
There are also exist 1 - 2 mils and 5 - 8 mils, but these are values for NPPU-80 and NPPU-28 helicopter turrets armed with 2a42.
This is from a blog, originally based on a video that is no longer available, could be wrong tho, since i can’t check the video since its gone now:
And this talks of the M929 APFSDS for the 2A42 by Mecar, stating dispersion to be <5mil:
I also just HIGHLY doubt the 0.4-0.5 mrad claims from your pic when we look at the dispersion seen in this video:
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the double standards hit again
Gaijin models things based on their own personal imaginary “reality”. Thats why the T-90’s all got buffs, the leo 2A5’s turret now floats, the begleit got a nerf, the Puma and other ANTO 30mm guns are less accurate than the BMP-2M’s 2A42, the AIM-54C is worse than the AIM-54A which it replaced, and the F-14’s TCS doesnt get to slave the radar despite primary sources and accurate documentation + a bug report detailing everything it can do, but all IRST on planes (notably primarily seen on russian jets in-game) get to slave radar locks (a functionality the TCS has irl, but not in-game)
This is why i dont make bug reports anymore. Gaijin’s intellectual integrity is clearly flawed, and they rather base their game on propaganda rather than realism. No bug report will change that.
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Turrets of 2A4 variant get to be modelled ‘correctly’, but 2A5+ variants cannot be…?
@Smin1080p Is there any explanation as to why A5+ variants of the Leopard 2 just cannot be modelled properly? Because this is no longer funny at this point, some of us expected these basic errors to be corrected with the 2A7V, but it shares the exact same problem as any other 2A5 & 2A6 variant… and now the 2A5 itself has by far one of the most, if not the most inaccurate turret ring model there ever was.
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Well look at the bright side they actually corrected the mass and increase the top speed to 75 km/h
All what left is the APFSDS, the warning system and the HOTs and maybe just maybe we can do something to fix the misunderstanding of the engine