Lets talk about the state of Germany

nah, just all the crew and all the ammo.

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@MuricaxSuffers
Looks about identical to me.

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@Necronomica
A 50mm plate and Armor Radiation Material stands behind the 60mm plate; AKA not crew.

What is that trying to prove?
The Begleits Bofors has over 3x the dispersion.
Objetively. Game code.

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IDK, I haven’t noticed in my PT-76-57 and Begleit personally them being notably different.
Then again, a lot could’ve changed in the year its been since I played PT-76-57.

The fact Begleit is still pinpoint accurate as much as AP rounds can be in my matches despite its alleged inaccuracy is honestly astonishing.

i swear all u do is come on here to argue with people

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Sir, I’m having a civil discussion with Noodle. We’re not arguing, we’re sharing perspectives.

ohh here we go flagging spam away! lmao

Well enjoy flagging me I guess…
Edit: He did it. ;)

please! LMAO

Think like this:
If you hold a shield Infront of you, are you behind that shield and your arm or only behind your arm?

Secondly, I have not yet tested it myself, but try shooting it in protection analysis and see what happens to the spall from that plate. If my memory serves me correct the inner armor does not always stop the spalling that derives from the outer layers of armor.

Armor stops spalling from other plates IRL and in-game.
That’s why I’m laughing at the fact the 60mm plates spalled in the first place, what a waste of calculations.

Irl yes. In Game, I don’t think so, but I might be wrong.
I just have a vivid memory of seeing just that, spalling from outer plates going through and hitting crew.

I think if it did happen, that’d be a bug.
Either way removing unnecessary spalling probably would fix any bugs while reducing processing needed when armor is hit.
Cause only the last armor plate in the line needs to spall after all.
Whether it’s the 50mm plate of T-90, or the 45mm plates of Leopard 2s.

It objectively isn’t sorry mate

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it isnt its noticeably much less acurate than the PT76 57 but the main reason is because the cannon wasnt meant for extreme precision since in the first place its a naval cannon

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Ah, that’d explain it pretty well.
Thank you.

yeah noticeable becasue of the muzzle thingy at the tip that i dont even know what it is or what is it for but that i’ve noticed with a lot of naval autocannons
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well that we can both agree on.

even if it is a bug, that means that it would happen to all tanks and thus effect performance if removed from only some right?
of course the aim would be to fix that bug but in the meantime those tanks who got spalling removed from outer layers would be buffed compared to those who didn’t.

I don’t have the resources to make a proper bug report, but the Begleitpanzer 57 has thermals. The VT1-2 Doesn’t. They have the same gunner sight, the Peri-R 12, clearly the same on both. So either the Begleitpanzer doesn’t have thermals, or the vt1-2 does. Can somebody make a bug report about this? I’m not the best with them. It’s the same sight on the Leo 1A5, I believe.

Ok, nevermind.