Because it has LESS. The add-on armour doesn’t shatter APFSDS, so it relies purely on raw KE armour value (~550mm to ~600mm depending on angle).
2A6s upper plate outright shatters/ricochet APFSDS, so it doesn’t care about what’s being fired at it. Right now, you trade the upper plate for the beak, this isn’t an upgrade, it’s a trade of weakpoints.
hahahahahahaha 20 year difference more weight but less armor oh boy this is pure bs
i did some very rough math if the 2A7V did not get all those armor upgrades its about 2.1 tons too heavy
Yea, and a guy who’s got contacts with mods told me that, I actually had to prove it to be better than Strv 122s MEXAS add-on (even though 2A7V relies on a 20+ year newer package, which logically should be performing at least at the same level) for the report to be accepted, lmao.
how can we prove any of this without leaking stuff since Gaijin says KMW and Rheinmetall and even the Bundeswehr sources are not “USEABLE”
We “can’t” in the traditional sense. Gaijin is just full of double-standards. Though in my report I provided evidence of it being a “Duel Plate” meant for tank-on-tank combat, afterwards it was forwarded.
great but i know this will come back to them one day and it will hurt them… We have Germans Americans French Japanese Chinese British Israelis and Italiens we are all pissed off
Dude… you just showed that DM53 pens 2A7V more than Strv 122. No need to insult me for saying the same thing.
And BVM continues to get penned by rounds down to DM23, but DM53 makes it easier for turret extremes.
Average turret protection of BVM is like ~460, jumps from 360 to 550 around that Abrams-sized turret weakspot of no ERA.
DM23 BTW:
Again, I’ve always been in full agreement that 2A7V has incorrect armor and it should be Strv 122 equivalent at the least.
Honestly don’t know why I’m being attacked when we’re literally all on the same page about 2A7V.
@FurinaBestArchon
What misinformation?
The statements I made about 2A7V so far: It should have more armor, and there’s evidence of this.
It currently has more total armor than T-80BVM, and less armor than Strv 122 tho it shouldn’t have less armor than Strv 122.
DM53 lolpens much of 2A7V currently.
IDK if I’m missing much else.
All Leopard 2s have an IRL reload sprint speed of 3.5 seconds for 7 rounds similar to Abrams.
There’s no reason for insults.
“Having DM53 with more armor than T-80BVM, but slightly less armor than T-90M & Strv 122B+…”
“Yes, DM53 lolpens one while it doesn’t as much the other.”
Another one.
“did up til your incorrect statement about BVM”
Maybe re-read what you’re writing next time, huh?
Funnily, if we include side protection, T-90M will trump all of those vehicles, followed by the BVM.
The penetrable area by DM53 is larger for 2A7V yes.
However, 390mm average turret armor uncovered by ERA might as well be the LFP of Leopard 2.
I apologize if my statements weren’t formed in a way that indicated I was on your side, cause I am on your side. Even if you push insults.
I won’t stop seeking corrections to vehicles that have incorrect facets.
I don’t want to see players at each others throats.
At the end of the day we are both trying to improve the game.
That’s the entire heckin’ point?
The penetrable area for the 2A7V is larger than on the 3 other vehicles mentioned, everything else is irrelevant.
Greetings, everyone. I would like to know if anyone has information about the armored cabin of the RMMV HX-77 8x8?
that info is as far as i know classified as its very new
I hope it doesn’t prevent to add this anti-aircraft gun
Fair enough.
Once again I give my deepest apologies that my statements weren’t clear enough prior.
I am on your side, even if I did a poor job portraying that prior.
It’s okay, it’s okay. Maybe it was just a misunderstanding. The point is that we need to be united.
i think since its a truck it will be armored enough to be save from 7.62 but not sure about 50cals btw there is a version with a Hard Kill APS on it to save it from RPGs
as far as i know it has only been used for transport of parts or even as a command vehicle but not as an vehicle with arms, but i’ve seen some concepts of it carrying stuff such as the MANTIS AA system
