Lets talk about the state of Germany

dude just stop the 2A7V is the most modern MBT that is in the game atm and uses armor from 1991 with trial data from 1995 its missing armor it should at least have the same as the 122s but its worse and stop making things up with we said this or that WE DID NOT SAY ITS RUSSIAN

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“YES” the better they are they harder Russian mains will scream and i love to listen to that scream it made me sleep at night feel so good

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do yourself a favour and block him, he is always twisting your words to make them fit for his agenda

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already did and i dont understand why the mods are not doing a thing its clear trolling and derailing all the time also watch our posts get flagged by him

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Mods only care if a people flag abuse like MiG_23M and his friends abusing the post flagging in the aircraft sextion or if you say anything that doesnt 100% line up with gajins company views.

Suprised they havent deleted this entire thread for suggeating the leopard 2 has better armor than a T series tank from the 80’s

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or ban people like me who really don’t like Russian mains and how their tank works to the core openly.

Make your ritorics easy. This is seems like kind of racism

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thank for warning me and i don’t have a problem with Russian people (one of my friend are Russian) but i do like sarcasm maybe i should try to calm my little sarcastic issue (got me ban two times)

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I wasn’t talking about you.
Stop attacking German players that agree with you.
You imply you flag all our posts.

2A7V should be fixed.

@MuricaxSuffers
Stop telling everyone to block all German players & mains.

@MythicPi
I’m honestly sick of us German players being targeted & being called trolls for wanting 2A7V to have correct armor.

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Right. Shell used to map this was DM53/L44.

Strv 122 is by far the most armoured, followed by the T-90M, then BVM and finally the 2A7V… even though the last, should be the first.

I omitted all armour holes on the 2A7V btw, the results would’ve been even worse otherwise.

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Yes, DM53 lolpens one while it doesn’t as much the other.
As I said. I was called a troll for saying the same thing you did up til your incorrect statement about BVM.
BVM has less armor than 2A7V, tho as I said previously 2A7V should have more.

what i find weird is how at least to me it feels like the upper plate on the 2A7V has less armor than my 2A6 but i have not checked it

You are delusional.

BVM has less armor than 2A7V, tho as I said previously 2A7V should have more.

You are FREE to PROVE THIS. Burden of proof an’ all that.

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Because it has LESS. The add-on armour doesn’t shatter APFSDS, so it relies purely on raw KE armour value (~550mm to ~600mm depending on angle).

2A6s upper plate outright shatters/ricochet APFSDS, so it doesn’t care about what’s being fired at it. Right now, you trade the upper plate for the beak, this isn’t an upgrade, it’s a trade of weakpoints.

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hahahahahahaha 20 year difference more weight but less armor oh boy this is pure bs

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i did some very rough math if the 2A7V did not get all those armor upgrades its about 2.1 tons too heavy

Yea, and a guy who’s got contacts with mods told me that, I actually had to prove it to be better than Strv 122s MEXAS add-on (even though 2A7V relies on a 20+ year newer package, which logically should be performing at least at the same level) for the report to be accepted, lmao.

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how can we prove any of this without leaking stuff since Gaijin says KMW and Rheinmetall and even the Bundeswehr sources are not “USEABLE”

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We “can’t” in the traditional sense. Gaijin is just full of double-standards. Though in my report I provided evidence of it being a “Duel Plate” meant for tank-on-tank combat, afterwards it was forwarded.

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