Lets talk about the state of Germany

Hmmm, according to the armour sheet, the 122s’ mantlets should be much stronger but I can’t find any significant differences in the protection analysis.

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Nevermind, I think I found it.

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More than 200 ke difference…oof, hope this will be fixed.

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I know it’s not exciting, but after I made the report for the C2A1 spall liner, I decided to make this one too :D

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/yyPNZqMGTAfP

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F35A Will be delivered around 2030, so until that point I Will not consider It as an option for Germany

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If I understood correctly, it was said in the Russian DEV stream that there will be no DM63/73 because Russia has nothing comparable.
So we can expect the Leopard 2A7V to be the next PSO!
The V in 2A7V does not stand for “Verbessert” (improved), but for “Verschlimmbessert” (Worst and Improved).

Thank you Gaijin for these deep insights.
I can’t think of the word right now for someone who always has to be the best and consciously makes others worse.
But that explains why so many things are rejected by support and issues are not treated as such.

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So Germany is in an even worse state? yay

Well if gaijin would fix the UFP angle and fix the armor, the 2A7V could become one of the best MBTs in the game but we all know it won’t happen.

Nah, he’s just Italian. They already purchased the jet, so when it’s added to the game, it will also be added to Germany.

If we went by “delivered” status, a number of nations wouldn’t have quite a few vehicles (2S38 for example).

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I don’t think that’s the only issue, even when you fire from an angle of 84 degrees, the APFSDS doesn’t shatter, so there’s still a problem with the add-on itself.

In fact, Leopard 2A6s UFP shatters APFSDS at an angle of 81, i.e less than constructional.

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Is there an open bug report about APFSDS not shattering?

ok, so can Italy get leo 2a8 before 2025 alongside germany?

There was, but TrickZZter put a “not a bug” on it, then I got told ““internally””, that there needs to be proof it is better than MEXAS-H on the Strv 122, I provided it in a different report, and then to TrickZZter himself in DM’s (it was saying that the plate is for tank-on-tank combat), report got ‘re-opened’, and I was told to wait for final values.

Sure, when they reveal it, because the vehicle that’s currently “called” the 2A8, is really just Germany’s Leopard 2A7(V)A1 configuration.

Do we know if the values in here Защищённость ОБТ - Google Drive are the “final values”? If not I am gonna wait with bug reports till second dev server and then see in .blk why it doesn’t shatter.

Not sure, I pinged Smin about this, awaiting an answer.

However, if they are, get your swords ready, since the armour values in that document are for the Leopard 2 TVM prototype with B-technology armour (from 1992), i.e an internal armour OLDER than what the Leopard 2A5 currently has in the game.

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It seems that Smin and Stona didn’t post anything in the past day (which is unusual) so I am hoping that they are cooking some appology and list of things they are gonna implement (D-tech). If not I will have a torch and pitchfork ready.

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Germany retains the best penning round in the game then.

What a stupid argument. Russia needs to always have an equivalent like with the spall liners. God beware that another nation has something unique over russia

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No, most of ru community if they don’t have equal will try to receive something better ( like a words i see in ru forum : " Leopard 2a7v too powerful, we need Armata as counterpart"). I like german vehicles, but on ru forum most of people fans of russians vehicles ( and mostly hate or silly joking of ones who thinking not in that side). I love my country, our vechicles and so, but i don’t understand people who want a total superiority of soviet branch…

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Guys, can someone do a theme about prototype KF-41 with 35 mm gun and unmanned turret for Germany? I make 3 themes about that, all of them “passed to developers”, but nothing in effect.
I just want to see that vehicle in native branch…

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