Lets talk about the state of Germany

So your saying that 27ers are not meta? I get at least 1 kill with them they are basically free kills. And 2 extra missiles on the su 27 will not impact the flight perfromance at all really, unless you start dogfighting instanly ofc

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Radar missiles aren’t meta because they require people to be high altitude & unaware.
It’s why I only bring 2 on airframes that let me bring more.
After the merge I’ll at most see one more radar missile opportunity.
It’s all IR opportunities from the beginning of furballs.
I wish radar missiles were meta again, but you can force people to the deck without having any radar missiles equipped.
The fear exists whether you bring them or not.
I use ERs on standard Mig-29 cause R-60Ms are so atrocious, and thankfully 1 - 2 people climb, don’t attempt to defeat the missile, & allow me to kill them.

Radar missiles are the easiest type of missile to defeat so much so that people bring full flare loads cause they know they won’t die to a radar missile based on their tactics.

Players stopped letting radar missiles work a year ago the moment they learned to defeat them.

I personally find a lot of people high up early on or after/during a furball. But 4 r73s 4r27ers and 2 r27ets will be the best loadout in the game easily. And on the su 27s fm it will easily be the best new plane overall.
Ps. Wait until around 10km to fire 27ers, its 99%of the time to late to notch at that range

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You have better matchmaking than I then.
I accept your perspective.

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Ive found that play style really changes effectiveness of certain weaponry. Sometimes ill have my 27ers left at the end of a match with 3 r73 kills. Other times ill only get 1 or 2 r27er kills and not use the 73s. Besides whenever i run no radar missiles 15 F4S fly 5km high straight at me

You still get more missiles and if you need to dogfight, just bind a button to ditch the missiles you won’t use.

The the mig-29 survives because of a good mix of flight performance and missiles but now that the there are planes with better flight performance, you don’t have the performance to back you up if you’re missiles don’t hit.

Sry if this is confusing to read, I have a bad headache rn :(

And 29G does have its R-73s.

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Hmmm, according to the armour sheet, the 122s’ mantlets should be much stronger but I can’t find any significant differences in the protection analysis.

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Nevermind, I think I found it.

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More than 200 ke difference…oof, hope this will be fixed.

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I know it’s not exciting, but after I made the report for the C2A1 spall liner, I decided to make this one too :D

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/yyPNZqMGTAfP

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F35A Will be delivered around 2030, so until that point I Will not consider It as an option for Germany

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If I understood correctly, it was said in the Russian DEV stream that there will be no DM63/73 because Russia has nothing comparable.
So we can expect the Leopard 2A7V to be the next PSO!
The V in 2A7V does not stand for “Verbessert” (improved), but for “Verschlimmbessert” (Worst and Improved).

Thank you Gaijin for these deep insights.
I can’t think of the word right now for someone who always has to be the best and consciously makes others worse.
But that explains why so many things are rejected by support and issues are not treated as such.

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So Germany is in an even worse state? yay

Well if gaijin would fix the UFP angle and fix the armor, the 2A7V could become one of the best MBTs in the game but we all know it won’t happen.

Nah, he’s just Italian. They already purchased the jet, so when it’s added to the game, it will also be added to Germany.

If we went by “delivered” status, a number of nations wouldn’t have quite a few vehicles (2S38 for example).

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I don’t think that’s the only issue, even when you fire from an angle of 84 degrees, the APFSDS doesn’t shatter, so there’s still a problem with the add-on itself.

In fact, Leopard 2A6s UFP shatters APFSDS at an angle of 81, i.e less than constructional.

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Is there an open bug report about APFSDS not shattering?

ok, so can Italy get leo 2a8 before 2025 alongside germany?

There was, but TrickZZter put a “not a bug” on it, then I got told ““internally””, that there needs to be proof it is better than MEXAS-H on the Strv 122, I provided it in a different report, and then to TrickZZter himself in DM’s (it was saying that the plate is for tank-on-tank combat), report got ‘re-opened’, and I was told to wait for final values.

Sure, when they reveal it, because the vehicle that’s currently “called” the 2A8, is really just Germany’s Leopard 2A7(V)A1 configuration.