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Then add some context, jesus.
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I will get to it eventually as I try to learn each AA and how it plays, but I’m not going to uptier my whole 6.7 lineup for its sake, nor will I put it in the 7.7 lineup, so it currently sits in my 7.3 lineup only… Where the Wiesel is a better alternative, I think.
Feels like a vehicle that’s been powercrept, but I might be wrong.
Gaijin will hold Russia at the top forever unless the community revolts again.
Time and time again they’ve shown with Britain, France, Germany, Italy, Israel and Japan that they do not care about making minor nations competitive.
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They do. Sweden will be better than Germany when they get grippen
2 of those you can’t get anymore. Awesome lineup indeed.
What is your 7.3 lineup
This one:
When several old 7.3s were uptiered, I ended up recycling a few 6.7s just to fill up the slots, but tbh if I ever were to really use them at those BRs, it would just be for the memes. I don’t think I’ve actually played this lineup in the shape that you see it now, actually.
I briefly considered buying the German M47 just to have another 7.3 in there, but decided against it because 1) I want as few non-domestic vehicles as possible, 2) Postwar vehicles in the tech tree are one thing but I don’t feel like spending money on a non-WW2 vehicle, and 3) it doesn’t look that fun to play to be honest.
Conclusion after about a month of Leopard PSO.
- The tank is not much better than its 2A5 counterpart and definitely worse than a 2A6.
- The machine gun on the turret roof feels worse than others in the same caliber.
- The armor often trolls, but is not really good.
- As for the bug reports, Gaijin ignores them very well.
There are errors on the live server that were already present on the dev server. - The mobility of the tank still has nothing to do with the original.
The PSO, just like the other big cats, drives as if it were moving 20 tons more mass.
Anyone who has ever seen the leopard in action would not believe that it is a 70 tons cat!
So at the end all that remains for me is the following conclusion:
Gaijin has no intention of filling the German TT with good things and does a lot more bad than right.
I would say pure fear of competition.
But even with these poorly done things you can still perform well.
Anyone who can handle what is available in the German high-tier TT can only drive everything else better!
The Bug Reports:
Frontblade: Community Bug Reporting System
Turretarmor: Community Bug Reporting System
Damage Modell: Community Bug Reporting System
This whas acknowledged: Community Bug Reporting System
Let’s see when it changes
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Doesn’t seem worth it to uptier your entire lineup just to play the Ru 251 or the Wiesel?
- The tank is not much better than its 2A5 counterpart and definitely worse than a 2A6.
This is much pretty much what I thought initially, like why did we wait 3 years to get this faux top tier vehicle that is not an improvement to what we had already and subpar to what Sweden got years ago?
The main value of the PSO is that it lowers the RP for the 2A6, beyond that I’m just going to wait for an actual top tier vehicle for Germany that is worth grinding and I still wait actual RP reductions to even bother grinding it.
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I have friends with 7.3 lineups in other nations, so having the option to hang out in good company and game a bit at a BR they might like to play is good enough for me. Like I said, I haven’t played it since the previous round of BR changes, so yes, I have little incentive to play it solo.
I don’t even think I would have ever made a lineup higher than 6.7 if not for the Maus at 7.7. I’m not really interested in the postwar gameplay, so 8.0 and up is not my jam.
I mean Germany is pretty rough with how it has a gap from WW2 to cold war, and practically nothing from 7 to 7.7 anymore, whilst relying on heavy armor and APCBC, I wouldn’t voluntarily uptier a 6.7 lineup, especially since Gaijin, in it’s usual infinite wisdom, uptiered the Panther ll and Tiger 10.5 because muh statistics and now put it back in range of 8.0 because again, infinite wisdom.
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Not even being a German player and agreeing with this is sad. It is in a sad state, I want to see the Sp-70/PzH155-1 or the PzH 2000 and they get an import of the M109 first, there’s tons of other things they can get, even the 2s1 gvosdika, and yes, the B3C has been in the Swedish tree but not the German? What is this game even doing, even Italy getting the AV-8B + before USA. There’s just so much being done, and if they add the Gripen to Italy before Sweden, idk what I’m gonna do.
It is why the three removed vehicles were originally in the game, and I disagree with the common take that this has been fixed, because what’s actually lacking is tanks whose design philosophy is pre-Korean War (still heavily influenced by WW2). Two of those 7.3 vehicles are premiums too, the Ru and the M47.
Still. What can you do. Other nations have much more troublesome gaps, and they should get priority. But I do hope we get a few more 7.0/7.3 vehicles some time down the line.
Creating incentives for players to grind minor trees to top tier, pretty transparently.
The gap between 8.0 and 8.7/9 is a bit naff too.
Swiss tanks or the Leo 1A1/1A3 would be nice to fill out the battle ratings. Germany needs a post war SPAA at the 7 to 8 bracket too, there must be some Gepard precursors that can be added surely.
this has been fixed
How can anyone come to that conclusion? It’s practically the same situation as it was years ago, after the Panzer IVs a complete lack in variety and only the M41 is there as for some reason we still cannot get a light tank for Germany below that.
Moving the Leopard and everything to 8.0 and whatever surely didn’t help either now that Russia and France have free reign to fight 6.7 Germany in their stupid attempt at decompression or whatever they were trying to do.
The Leopard would never have needed to be undertiered if Gaijin didn’t have to “scramble” for a tech tree replacement for the Panther II. It is that simple.
The first half of that mistake has been corrected by uptiering the Leopard, which I agree was necessary. The second I doubt will be addressed in the foreseeable future, though I’d like that. Until then, eh. I’ll do without. The Maus at 7.7 is great fun, and for everything else, I’m happy to stay capped at 6.7.
The fact that there are some gaps in the TT for the Germans is not that dramatic.
Then take a look at the Swedes, it’s much worse there.
But what I find worse is that some vehicles are put on BR levels where they don’t belong because they are classified far too high.
Only Gaijin knows why.