Lets talk about the state of Germany

we are talking about tanks here and you come with the plane out of nowhere, besides that should have mentioned UK as well in that case

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because he thinks you mean this update, which germany has only shown to be getting MiG-29G

Kugel is still a great spaa at 7.0.

There is nothing at 7.0

Ostwind II is great still anyway if you don’t have 341

Even more fake and less unique than 341 tho

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Which is significantly worse than a Kugel or 341, and there is zero reason for the Kugel to be 7.0

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Ok what is the point of this convo

Ost2 is only slightly worse than Flak341. Kugel could be 6.7 for lineup purposes

What does that mean?

Pretty significant difference between a Panzer IV chassis with exposed crew vs a Panther chassis with a fully enclosed crew

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not really, 341’s success usually isnt because it’s survivable.

Indeed, 341 is superior in every way. And only Russia is allowed to have superior vehicles ofc.

You know up until recently Germany had half their tree undertiered yeah?

All I care is that they dared Uptiering it to hell and Back. 5.7 or nothing!

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No. All of germany’s tanks got appropriate BR changes

Pfft, of course

It’s the main advantage over the other SPAA that always get strafed and trade kills constantly.

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It doesn’t matter. Ost2 is good regardless because its literally identical to 341 until you get strafed which isn’t actually that common for good spaa players