This is exactly the same as with the US had low winrates at top tier, but then it was all “haha US player bad”.
So yeah now Germany is in the same position and from playing with and against Germany a lot I know it’s definitely a player issue.
Again, which just confirms that the German low winrates are a player issue and not a lineup issue.
I knew I was forgetting one.
Ugh youre so insanely mediocre at understanding.
Yeah thats why your israel comparisons are dumb. You have to compare a major with another major statistics wise, because they all have the same amount of dumb players. And compared to the US and USSR germany is still worse. And for the US you can easily see the reason since the only top tier vehicle with a positive winrate is the 64E
So yes ofc its a player issue since its a major but if you compare it to the other majors you see that its also a lineup issue
Do you mean against chemical? The only publicly available numbers I know for internal D-Tech is 600mm against kinetic and 1200mm against chemical.
I would more so say LDIRCM issue, I will agree to that.
Germany top tier tanks wise lineup should still smash most nations besides Sweden and Italy. Any self respecting player should be able to get a 1.5-2.0+ K/D in any of the 2A7s/Strv 122s without much effort.
Well the average for the 2A7V is actually 1.4 which makes it the second best performing major tank after the T80BVM. But Tanks are only great if the sky is somewhat clear. Its not a coincidence that germanys winrate dropped massively when the IRIS Ts usefulness tanked after the addition of the LDIRCM Helis. Cas (in any form) is king and germany cant really contend in that regard rn
I’m curious how much the BVM K/D improvement is because it can now farm Leopard players with the situational of a pebble.
Turret baskets are a pain is the tldr
Together with the bato hump
? Well since i doubt that the average awareness of Leopard players changed from september to october id say its rather got something to do with constant air cover by unkillable helis
With the T72/T80 trunion problem its nearly impossible to take their Breach rn
Especially on maps, which are surrounded by high cliffs or mountains. Or just ‘pit maps’.
Iris-T or Flarakrad just can’t cope with this. Enemy jets have cover 100% and just pop out in the open without any warning. Once over the battlefield, they just can’t be hit by Iris. The missile is somehow not able to hit enemy air vehicles which are right on top of the ground map. Considering ordnance count of Suchois one is enough to suppress the whole ground team.
Another thing are the helis, there are 3 with DIRCM and they simply can’t be shot. I don’t know why Gajin won’t act. There are helis just hovering above the map killing tons of vehicles, but no SAM connects.
Most maps are pit maps. Or maps like abandoned factory with almost no ground to air line of sight. Its no problem for jets to get close. Most matches also spawn DIRCM helis. They just spawn on the close helipad. Hover up. Spam missiles, kill all Leopards. Hover down. Reload and hover up again to kill the rest. While they’re immune to Iris-T Sams.
Winrate collapsed. Germany is auto defeat. Needs already better anti air system. Something to shot choppers. You simply can’t play tanks with just one of these around.
Solutions? Maybe add Gepards to the Iris complex. So you can spawn a third vehicle. Otherwise you’re helpless on 80% of the maps. You need something to shot at targets flying low altitude passes. Iris is only good to hit high up targets which approach the ground map.
The close helipad needs to be removed. Helis spawning in strike range is just the final nail in the coffing. LMUR carriers need to spawn at the airfield.
Make it the skyranger. That would be nice.
And i remember someone mentioning the new spaa screen doesnt quite work effectively with the cannon spaas.
Might be different for intercepting armament for all i know
Adding vehicles like skyranger to bigger SPAA systems that target incoming munitions would be a cool system, maybe have the ability to control them so you could defend against tanks that push into spawn?
Also yeah the SPAA radar screen doesn’t have the cannons shoot far enough ahead of aircraft to make ut usable
They just need to fix choppers. Give a solid radar return on them and fix the LDIRCM and suddenly they are much less of a problem.
I feel like that would be an insane nerf to the weaker Helis like the Tiger and everyone with spike
You don’t hit when you use cannons from the screen. But you can just third person eyeball low flying jets. Or shot a Stinger. Stingers are better when the target is close to the ground section of the map. Sad but true.
I just need to ask again. I paused a few weeks at top br. So thats new to me. Why are nowadays most targets overlayed in red. These can’t be locked nor shot. What is it? Its like the whole airspace is full of russian jets, but you can’t fire off a single missle. Also explains why Ger can’t win any match. Its anti air just doesn’t work anymore, while mostly ru jets and helis completly dismantle the ground team. Its currently more air spawns per match than ever before, it seems. You can’t play ground, at least not successfully. With nowadays target pods they spot every single vehicle, clear the map in minutes. Crazy balancing.
Here again. Incoming AGMs. But overlayed red. Can’t lock/shot any. Did I miss something? New feature?
Their lack of awareness has become 20x more noticable. Whether that is due to the playerbase getting worse or all the good multi nation player leaving for the FOTM nation is up to debate.
Huh intersting, that was added this update right?
The average KD of the 2A7V went down by 0.02 from september to october, youre just taking your anecdotes as a sad excuse so you dont have to admit that germanys winrate went massively down due to problems in the lineup. And here i thought arguing in bad faith was the Russian mains speciality not the US
Thing is, I’m not a US main.
German main that isn’t very good at the game claiming Germany suffers is another classic, not sure why I even tried to argue it.
Ofc you arent.
Well you didnt even argue it, you hollered some baseless anecdotes and thats it. Statistically germany actually does suffer this time and its quite apparent why
But bringing personal skill into the discussion after not being able to conduct a proper argument is another classic employed by people that spent more time in war thunder than in school
Worst optics
Longest reload (if loader dead)
Second longest reload in game with loader alive
