Well comparing the average skill to minor nations obviously makes no sense, its rather interesting if you compare it to the other big 2 tho.
The winrate drop makes absolute sense, the only thing germany had going for it was the 2A7V and the IRIS T SLM. The SLM was borderline useless when the LDIRCM helis came into the game and now its nerfed even further. Without air cover even the best tank in the game is borderline useless.
Its rather baffling that the US only gets 2.5% more winrate with the 64E
I mean, you say line up wise.
We have a good mbt yes.
Puma? Is only 11.0 its no 12.0 light.
The spikes are meh, kill chance is quite gimped.
Its surivable yes. But my turret gets taken out so much and ammo is gone as well then.
Iris-t slm? Got killed this patch
Uht? Missing its cas features ,that the hac gets.
Pars 3 is the lowest range fnf now and uht has no dlirccm.
Eurofighter good CAP capability. Brimstones is great to take out helis.
But sucks as CAS without fnf.
F/a 18 is an option but limited as well.
Germany has the 2a7V realy. Its not like 2 pso with side chemical armor makes much difference.
Sweden as example ground wise is better in most metrics besides spaa, while we arent certain yet with how much they gimped the slm
Whats so special about the german line up you think so?
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This goes for the Majority of the nations though. I think only the US and Sweden have a 11.7 or higher light tank.
It’s not that it’s special, it’s just that it’s a decen all round lineup rhat shouldn’t be having the worst overall winrate at top tier.
If hecking Israel can do decently with their lineup, Germany has no excuse.
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and italy with the Centauro 120
(hope gaijingles will give centuaro 2)
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Comparing a minor with 1/10th of the players to a major is just stupid.
Why not? If you compare it to tech trees with a similarly big playerbase it becomes quite obvious why its winrate is that low
Italy as well
I didnt look specialy at the winrated.
I am just saying. Germany by far is not dominant or has special advantages over others as many claim
Its pretty mid in a lot of aspects.
All rounder isnt always good. We do a lot of stuff.
But dont excell anywhere
Hexk we dont even got the best leo line up
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It isn´t even good a being an all rounder. Long reload, bad armor, bad optics on tt leos (exept for the 2a7), decent mobility, not auto loaded
The Leos are the worst tanks in some categorys my guy
Germany, US, USSR are the first nations most people grind. Obviously someone who just reached their first top tier isn’t going to perform anywhere near as good as someone who has 5 nations at top tier.
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True! But that doesn´t excuse buffs or anything. Otherwise we just have insane power-creep like we did with the premium mig21s(r-13-300)
Us was my first nation to top tier and tbe only tank im not positive in is the 10.7 M1 cause i was a brainlet when i got it.
Germany rn doesn’t suffer
What catagoties are those?
The leopards are pretty damn solid top tier MBTs from the 2a5 - 2a6 - 2pso and even now tbe 2PL is pretty nice sonce it got dm53
There’s plenty of trees worse than Germany. France, Italy, China
What do you mean.
France top tier is stacked.
France is absolutely stacked lol and Italy is debatable. Same top tank, worse lineup depth, better light tank, same CAS and SPAA depends on how good or bad the IRIS T is now
US, Sweden, and Italy now all have 12.0 Light tanks but they just nerfed the hell out of the CV90120 by making it into the 2006 model but without actually making it the 2006 model so its worthless now for ground, too heavy to be usable
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This is exactly the same as with the US had low winrates at top tier, but then it was all “haha US player bad”.
So yeah now Germany is in the same position and from playing with and against Germany a lot I know it’s definitely a player issue.
Again, which just confirms that the German low winrates are a player issue and not a lineup issue.
I knew I was forgetting one.
Ugh youre so insanely mediocre at understanding.
Yeah thats why your israel comparisons are dumb. You have to compare a major with another major statistics wise, because they all have the same amount of dumb players. And compared to the US and USSR germany is still worse. And for the US you can easily see the reason since the only top tier vehicle with a positive winrate is the 64E
So yes ofc its a player issue since its a major but if you compare it to the other majors you see that its also a lineup issue
Do you mean against chemical? The only publicly available numbers I know for internal D-Tech is 600mm against kinetic and 1200mm against chemical.
I would more so say LDIRCM issue, I will agree to that.
Germany top tier tanks wise lineup should still smash most nations besides Sweden and Italy. Any self respecting player should be able to get a 1.5-2.0+ K/D in any of the 2A7s/Strv 122s without much effort.
Well the average for the 2A7V is actually 1.4 which makes it the second best performing major tank after the T80BVM. But Tanks are only great if the sky is somewhat clear. Its not a coincidence that germanys winrate dropped massively when the IRIS Ts usefulness tanked after the addition of the LDIRCM Helis. Cas (in any form) is king and germany cant really contend in that regard rn