And now comes some bad Alvis comment about how germany / france have the best tanks blah blah blah
I thought you were talking about KF41 cause it’s worse than the Puma VJ, but after reading it a 2nd time I still agree.
@dotSHINI ‘s post falsely accusing others is wild; those false accusations have deep implications for everyones’ posts here that sincerely discuss the German tech tree.
I mean, yeah ?
if we got KF51/similar stuff, and Leclerc Evolution (with either it’s 120 or 140mm, plus it’s drone yeeter etc…)
They can be really powerfull tank.
misunderstanding it, i meaned current in game stuff, typical Alvis commands of how france and or germany do not need further additions cause they already are good in the game
just another of alvis bad quotes.
If he didnt immediatly try gaslighting people again
Don’t take a look at the Leclercs, all using in WT data/armor data from swedish trial where it was a proto Leclerc send, not even the first bach of S1.
At least you have armor and got better shells in the years, we still have the same best shell as when the first Leclerc joined the game ~5+ years ago xD
But that’s not the topic so i stop there
@dotSHINI
I’ve exclusively endorsed more tanks for France and Germany.
I’ve specifically endorsed SHARD for Leclercs to bring them actually up to Leopard 2A5 standard in-game as well.
I have countless posts asking for Puma VJTF [using a different name for it] to be added to the game, despite me never intending to use it personally.
Falsely accusing people [plural] of things they never did all because they want Germany to get more vehicles is not healthy posts.
Go learn what gaslighting is:
Me saying your feelings matter, your perspective matters, you and I are equals is NOT gaslighting.
The leo 2 arc would be more balanced aswell. 130mm and higher cannons should only be added if they these tanks dont have good armor aswell.
Nah up to more advanced Leopard variant is too rush
I’m sure German could use other uparmored 2A6 variant as back up for 2A7V (or PSO-VT)and sht i even want them to have it since you know Sweden can have all three.
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They throw around c&p because they add more nations but apparently dont have more developers and to make things worse they add details like turret rings and moduls to make creating more vehicles take more time
UHT might less needing it for self defense if Stinger can pull 22G like it supposed to but since gaijin don’t believe that stinger can be better than their garbage counterparts like Igla so here it is 13G
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Leopards in France bring nothing good.
Bad idea from start to end.
If at least they would put heavy modified stuff from Belgium, like this leopard, AT LEAST it would be original, not a plain and sad copy pasta
Or one of the 6x Leclercs proto that was made before the S1
But no, all the 2 lines of BeNeLux subbTT added ONE original vehicle…
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Would explain why the 2A6 FIN and 2A6 NL are missing their correct hull armor from the 2A4. I guess if they were reduced less people would play them on France (lets be real masochists will play garbage tanks just to prove they are better than other players even if the tank is horrid.) Though i do wonder what the holdup is for gaijin to add the HE-VT shell to both of the 2A6 models or maybe its just the FIN idr.
HE-VT shell?
Oh you must mean the DM11? NL can’t use it, no module. Neither does Finland iirc, they use “dumb” Israeli HE rounds.
German 2A6s irl have gotten the arming module tho, so they could get DM11 in WT.
Finland does, i had to look it up it was part of their upgrade program to modernize their 2A6 fleet. Its not HE-VT but M339
Upgrade plans started in 2016 with an actual deal going through in 2019 with the vehicles receiving the first upgrades in mid 2022. New electronics and ammo being oart of the upgrade.
Yeah my bad for calling it HE-VT, though ill need to find the one i was actually thinking of as both sweden and Finland have it for their guns.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/nLyRr5KlRuuP
Bug report from about 1 year ago
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/nLyRr5KlRuuP
If i had to guess gaijin likely wont accept it given their original opinion as to why the Swedish Strv 122’s don’t get M339 was because it would be unbalanced for them to have it.
I still think Germany should have gotten Dutch, Swiss, and Austrian vehicles, with exceptions if those vehicles were designed only by another country, and France should get Belgian vehicles.
I swear, if i go in Leclerc threads, I see Leopard talk, if I go in Germany threads, I see Leclerc talk
The same stuff that hold them to give the Leclercs their similar shell, they only want USA (and Russia? Don’t remember) to enjoy HE-VT type of shells on their MBTs.
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