I wouldn’t think any vehicle I just mentioned is just meh when compared to their peers.
Bagel is very nice
1A5 meh
TAM is good
T-72 is good but it’s Russian so about equal
KPZ-70 I don’t really bring anymore. Too inconsistent dmg.
M48 super…just meh
Tam 2C is great.
2k is very meh
Wiesels are indeed nice
And then it gets good with the leopard 2s
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I really like tanks like KPz-70 and it’s copies as they’ll have UFO mobility and gun handling for their BR, with KPz-70 having crazy reload and 20mm autocannon to go with it. Yes, dart is not great but it’s certainly can be worked around.
Now Germany got the OSA and Strela, so even their AA line is looking pretty good.
What tank are you playing? Because it’s very clearly not the Leopard 2K.
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2k is imo the best 9.7 tank, i love that thing
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A 9.7 using DM13 and no thermals my man
I took the kpz out of the lineups just because of the gun. The mobility is great and the 20mm gun is awesome but it doesn’t make up for the gun.
The leo 2k is a highly mobile MBT at 10.0, and it has DM23.
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Leo 2k is great, occasional trolly turret, amazing 20mm and superb mobility. Skill issue i guess
- It has DM23.
- DM13 is fine. There is nothing wrong with it at that BR.
- Thermals make almost no difference the vast majority of the time.
- Phenomenal mobility and gun handling.
The Leopard 2K is one of the best MBTs for its BR.
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This is literally all true, the 2k is a great tank
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Has a surprisingly trolly armour profile too, you should go through the turret and sometimes it just eats the shot. They are a menace
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The leopard 2k is an absolute fiend mate.
Still use at 12.0
It was even more of a menace on release day of 1.77.
Imagine a Leopard 2K with a black hole behind the mantlet and a 5 second reload at 8.7 at the time. Shit was wild.
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Shits still wild at 10.0 tbh man it absolutely sharts on the competition and the lack of thermals isnt even a hindrance
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Thermals on the 20mm also
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it used to have thermals, and IRL it did, but gaijin removed both the 20mm thermals and the main ones
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Its also mentioned in gaijins officially accepted book which is less accurate than janes. As well as its ability to fire hot atgms.
I think its pretty conclusive at this point that the bagel had apfsds.
Not to mention the helicopter warning system is an early irst tracker.
Reason #5000 as to why i hate gaijin.
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i assume this is satire otherwise i wanna see it so i can laugh at it lol
theres actually so much info about it.patents. design. testing.
i can share if u want
Im mad the idiots decided to pull an m735/walker bulldog on the bagel but its not that slow. Its still faster than many other tanks around its br.
Actual skill issue. Gen 1 thermals are pefectly fine and are far better for detection than optical sights. Thermals are great for detection, optics and ir nv are great for identification.
I use thermal imagers irl so my eyes are used to detecting differences in thermal signitures, and gen 1 thermals in game are very good quality compared to real gen 1 thermals and even consumer 160p grade thermals.
And if you think it isnt great right now BECAUSE it doesnt have irst then maybe you arent using it right. Because the bagel is one of the best spaas around its br. Its got a far better hevt shell than the 2s38 or cv9040s.
Irst would simply make it better than it already is.
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