I’d debate that the ONLY reason the Puma is “the best IFV” is that Snail hasn’t introduced them to other nations yet, NOT that its an insane killing machine. see tracks blowing out, Spike flight physics, autoloader after being repaired taking 300s to reload
Sam - Pantsir (not even close) -----Agreed.
Tank - 2A7 (better thermals matters more than slight armour increase) ----- Disagree, 122B+ is better.
IFV - PUMA/2S38/CV-90 -------- Disagree, See Above (Could agree on 2S38 at 10.3)
Best light tank - CV120, Centaro, Type 16, Stryker MGS all pretty similar ----Boxer maybe? They gave weaker engine for 0 reason.
Jet for CAP - Typhoon/F-15E ------Agreed
Jet for CAS - Typhoon/Su-34/F-15E -------Agreed
Helicopter - Ka-52 (doesnt face Pantsir) Tiger with FnF missiles/ Israeli Ah-64 with SPIKE ------Disagree with the Spike carriers, see Flight physics, amount of missiles carried (8 vs 16)
The 2s38 isnt really even an ifv its more like a multirole spaa. But even then its not the best. The bagel is one of the best despite its ap shell getting stuck on armor and it not having its historical abilities. If the bagel got its features i doubt thered be any argument against it being the most powerful ifv in game.
But currently from personal experience the strf 9040s are the best. I prefer the puma irl and just playing it but i do far better more consistently in the 9040s. The 40mm apfsds has enough pen to bully many mbts frontally whereas penning even the abrams with the puma can be hit or miss since its turret ring got a slight buff.
The chadley isnt even up for debate imo that thing needs m935a2 because waiting 5 seconds after stopping to fire a tow2 in the ground is pain. Actually fix tows and give it m935a2 and it could easily be top 3.
The puma is a one trick pony, a gun. An ok gun, its not exceptional like the 2s38 or great like the 40mm its just ok. Its armor means diddly squat at its current br and even less so with the puma s1. The hull down ability is great but how useful will you be when your just sitting behind a rock.
yeahhh no, the bagel is slow and got further nerfs last year
gen 1 thermals, no irst
even with the few “upgrades” it could get it wouldnt be to strong, the heli warning system is no irst
apfsds has no sources
the only “good” upgrade it can get is a missle change to hots if i remember right, the bagel by farrr isnt the best ifv, not to mention how it isnt an ifv to begin with
I’d say they are still solid after 8.0 but I do feel as though they are lacking compared to other trees in the 8.0+ area.
I actually love the markers, it’s the MBTs that just feel lackluster to me. Especially the first leopard, I’m not saying it’s bad, it just does very poorly in a update(yes, I know others do as well but the Leo really lacks stuff to help it with the exception of good mobility)
I really like tanks like KPz-70 and it’s copies as they’ll have UFO mobility and gun handling for their BR, with KPz-70 having crazy reload and 20mm autocannon to go with it. Yes, dart is not great but it’s certainly can be worked around.
Now Germany got the OSA and Strela, so even their AA line is looking pretty good.
