Dude chill out seriously, if You want to takk a out it do it in DM’s
Let me remind you of your own comment:
‘‘Honestly mate, if you are doing bad with the T-90A at 10.7, you are just bad ngl.’’
You’re the one that brought skill into this conversation. If you didn’t want to discuss playerskill or feel offended when someone turns this argument around on you, you shouldn’t have brought it up in the first place.
A vehicle literally consists of it’s stats. Nothing else.
Whether that be turret traverse, reload rate, armour protection, these are the thing that make up a vehicle.
The overall stats of the T-90A are awful, that’s why it translates into a vehicle that doesn’t suit the META.
That argument doesn’t work because it can be used to make any vehicle seem stronger than it is. Any vehicle performs better when facing newbies.
That’s not what I said.
I said that if the T-90A were to be subjected to a BR change, it’d be more deserving of going to 10.3 than 11.0.
Oh, and penetration isn’t what makes the M1 the best 10.3 tank in the game. You shouldn’t hyperfixate on penetration values as the end-all be-all of stats.
Leopard 2A4 entered service in 1985, DM33 entered service in 1987. DM23 and DM13 are the correct historical loadouts for a Leopard 2A4 at it’s date of introduction.
Now, if you want it to receive improved ammunition, you’d also have to be in favour of other nations receiving improved ammunition, such as 3BM-46 for the T-64BV.
Cant exactly say if its the worst or not apart from other MBTs in the area but its definitely two steps above as a tank and galaxies above in fun had over T-72B, enemies being practically the same due to constant 10.3 Leopard 2 or Abrams premiums.
Good work on getting screenshots of spalling over-performing on Leopard 2s.
the T90 in some ways is worse than the T80uk
collecting opinions if there is anyone interested to read
Thanks a lot for the clarifications!
T-64B (1976), T-64BV (1985) Uses 3BM42 from (1986) and you want to give it 3BM46 from (1991)
Leopard 2A4 entered service in 1985, DM33 entered service in 1987. DM23 and DM13 are the correct historical loadouts for a Leopard 2A4 at it’s date of introduction.
by this definition T-64B can’t use 3BM42 either, since it was introduced 10 years after the B and 1 year after the BV mod.
I said that if the T-90A were to be subjected to a BR change, it’d be more deserving of going to 10.3 than 11.0.
sure if it loses 3BM60 like the Bhishma (3BM42)
and penetration might not be king, but it sure comes in handy when you want to kill stuff.
been grinding JPN 9.3-7 using M735 isn’t fun, unlocking Type 93 on Type 16 was a real joy.
with some exceptions all GER and USA tanks h at 10.3 have lower penetration then most others, would giving them DM33 make them OP? (M833 or M900 for USA) move them to 10.7 then, but dont deny them a round that was surely used in their service life. now GER gets a better round at 11,3 in the leo 2PL
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1984*
The in-game T-64B is from 1984.
I didn’t say that.
The M1 Abrams and Leopard 2A4 are already among the strongest MBT’s relative to their BR’s in the game.
And yet people are still not satisfied and constantly ask for improved ammunition, even though they do not need it and it would only result in a BR increase in the long run.
I’m all for a Leopard 2A4 C technologie being added with DM33, Germany still needs a T-80UM2 / M1A1 / IPM1 counterpart, but pointlessly adding DM33 to the existing Leo 2A4 is a terrible idea.
i do not agree to sacrifice the 10.3 lineup and make the leopard 2A4 have DM33 i think a leopard with C tech at 10.7 with DM33 would be a good addition instead, specially if im not sacrificing my current lineup
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I think additive 2A4 modifications with DM33 is superior to giving the current one that round and ending the 10.3 lineup.
yeah hence i really dont like suggestions about giving the current 2A4 DM33 since it didnt had it at the start of service and it would mess the lineups
yeah, they definitely should bring a separate Leo 2a4 with C-tech, instead of giving DM33 to the current one.
No, they should give 2a4 we have in game DM33 and keep it at 10.3 because I said so👀
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make it 11.0 (makes less sense)
I mean 10.7 exist as well just saying
and theres no reason for it to exist, i genuinely do not know why gaijin does x.3 or x.7, it seems so useless when it can just be rounded down or up and then you get put in a proper br range
Game is balanced to the liking for ru lovers
As you see with fantasy t80bvm the pantsir and su25sm3
Meanwhile nato tanks get nerf after nerf. :)
But ye dare us to say something lol
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dont worry, we have a diffrent allready
Leopard 2A7V’s - spall liner bug.
lets see what we will get this time…