Spalling occurred just fine in the 2nd, it just hit the other side of the hull and the autoloader.
Exactly, that’s the job of fuel tanks, universal on all tanks.
Relying on spall to cover for aiming mistakes will lead to more situations like this against all tanks, not just 2S38.
So happens that the 2S38 is broken, in such that its fuel tank blocks all shrapnel to protect crew members (making it as survivable as the Lvkv).
Do you seriously believe that Challenger 2 as on the same level as T-90M ? Go get your brain checked please. Challenger 2 is 10.7 MBT at best and Challenger 3 11.0
2S38 is functioning correctly, thus not broken.
Fuel tanks are functioning correctly as their secondary job is to block spall.
And if you mean broken as in OP: All tanks function this way, 2S38 is not special.
If it’s functioning correctly, it’s survivability is insane and deserves an uptier to 10.3 or 10.7.
Yes they’re good except by mobility which shares almost same performance compared to T-90M at short ranges.
@AlvisWisla is correct about the fuel tanks being anti-spall, its the reason they are put in the front of the tank to begin with. Additionally the 2S38 is built out of ABT-102 aluminum alloy that is specifically designed to be low spall at the cost of some hardness.
no, you need to learn how to deal with it like any other tank in the game. from your screen shots I can see you are not carrying HE or HEAT rounds that will over pressure and destroy it with a single hit to the turret, so start with that.
The Abrams killed me faster when I killed its loader.
LOL I always destroy 2S38 with the first shot.
BMP-3 and 2S38 are supposed to have explosion-proof tanks IRL, but in the game they explode
Pantsir is a good SAM, but its radar is poorly implemented in the game. It could be better, but it would be better if the developers added TOR-2 for Russia instead of Pantsir, because Pantsir is redundant, but it is easy to destroy with a gun flying low from cover
The fact that I have to switch to HE just for this vehicle tell me enough about it.
If he had ace crew, that would make it so that instead of 3.5s left, it would be 2.5s, so time remaining till fully loaded without loader would probably be another 5s, which out-loads your 7.1s.
You should always be carrying a few HE/ HEAT for any light tank, SPAA or open top that you run into, from BR 1.0 to BR 11.7, that has been true since before the S238 was added and is in no way unique to it.
The problem is when on single nation is OP and can keep the skies clear, while allowing their CAS to work. If both teams had proper AA then it wouldn’t matter. But when only one side has decent AA and overtierd CAS then they can do whatever they want.
The Longbow and AGM-88 missing in game, is pure bias. Coupled with the missing proper counter SPAA makes the game silly at top tier.
I guess we can just ignore the Premium (don’t have to grind air) SU-39 with R73s and 30km KH-29s? Sweden might have good tanks, but you can’t just buy a strike fighter for top with it like you can the soviets.
The pantsir is just as bad as all the other toptier SPAA its not good it used to be good along with the other SPAA but the Saclos nerf killed it
7km max range you’d have to purposefully fly into its missile range to die to it
Actually the best light tank at 10.0 is the swedish CV90 series
Every nation has CAS planes that outrange even the TOR mavericks do have 20km max range afterall
And the Ka-52 isnt nearly as good as the german top heli or the Israeli which both get FAF missiles
Toptier would be infinitely more balanced if they either increase CAS SP requirements by 50% for guided weapons, reduced SP for CAP or revert the Saclos nerf
None of which have proximity shells. None of which have Air IRST and Track RADAR.
2S38 = Gen 3 gunner and Commander Thermals.
CT-CV105 = Gen 2 Gunner thermals only.
Which Sweden premium has them? USSR has the Su-39 so you don’t need to grind. Also the AHS is missing its Longbow F&F Romeo & Hellfires… Not to mention the Gripen can carry these… https://www.dote.osd.mil/Portals/97/pub/reports/FY2016/army/2016hellfire.pdf?ver=2019-08-22-105406-107
SDB Alternative would include Hellfires btw…
Not to mention the Sweden MSHORAD it should have in game: MSHORAD | Saab
Su-39 does not have long-range AGMs, and is a mach 0.82 speed aircraft.
Soviets don’t have a good CAS aircraft for top BRs as a premium.
I guess. HE should make things easier to kill, but direct hits to the fuel tank with 120mm APFSDS should always kill the 2S38.
This is wrong. The KH-29L AGMs it carries have a range of 13KM which is further than any other nations SPAA. It also has the R73 which is the best IR missile in game. Being subsonic isn’t a huge weakness. KH-29TE has a 30km range, far out pacing any SPAA in game.
So it does in fact have long range ATGMs. I guess you don’t consider Mach 1.75 30KM long range…
