Oh this is gonna be a good one lol brave choice of topic
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The R-27ER was the direct cause of lawnmover meta.
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So I say rarely instead of all the time，but I also admit that the r27er ruled the skies for a while
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Maybe we’ll see Su-15TM and with it R-8 and R-98 missiles
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Well other than that im not against adding for example Mig-25, depending on the technical parametres of its missiles.
I have vague knowledge they were more aimed at taking down JSTARs and tankers rather than fighters, butnif they can work, why not.
US players will never admit when they have an advantage, US dominates the skies across the board but they always want to pretend it’s their skill that is what does it.
F-14 sucks apparently with a 70% winrate and a k/d of 3.5.
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The aircraft or the missile since the missiles were aimed at the exact same issue the Phoenix was. Taking down enemy nuclear bombers like B-52 and Tu-95 etc so R33 would be fine
Sure, Russian air is quite bad right now, but your post isn’t really making sense.
R-27ER has been the longest range (usable against fighters) missile since the day it has been added up until this update. It outranged other SARH missiles by a factor of 2, sometimes even more.
Also you bring up R-37M, as if we have anything close that in game right now. Even if we get the best western missiles they will still lack the range compared to R-37M. And you bring it up now.
I don’t know how Russia can be fixed, but flightmodels are the first thing I would change.
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R-73 is equivalent to NATO counterparts.
R-77 is obviously one of the best ARHs in the game despite its bugs.
And R-27ER is equivalent to AIM-7F/M having a slightly longer range when fired from Mig-29SMT.
None are weak.
To address your list:
R-9 and R-4 are likely useless.
R-40 is entirely useless, it’s an anti-strategic bomber missile and with that has the worst maneuverability.
Its default form is SARH, and R-40RD would be worse than a Phoenix.
R-33S is sort-of Phoenix equivalent, but R-33 is not as that’s just a SARH.
No it wasn’t, AIM-7E2 and Skyflash were the cause of lawnmower meta. AIM-7F was added prior to R-27ER as well, which had the same range as each other initially [and still do if the ER is fired from Mig-29 9.12/9.13].
Mig-29SMT and Yak-141 weren’t in the game yet, and Yak-141’s >80km locking is difficult compared to Mig-29SMT’s.
R-27ER was one of the missiles to really be limited by host radar range whereas AIM-7F was always equipped to radars that exceeded its range… except F-16 radar.
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The missile.
If it can hit fighter jets, add it
@BramborovySalat
Well, I guess thank you for conceding defeat to all future arguments to the War Thunder playerbase since you’ll be blocking the entire forum soon enough.
Whenever people call out my sincerity and directness I don’t care.
The fact your post accuses thousands of people of gaslighting you just because I agree with the factual takes of them.
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This may be a bit off topic: the r27er was not fully capable of its range when considering the poor radar of Soviet aircraft
You are right, but it was still on a different level compared to sparrows.
I share your sentiment that Russia needs buffs, but your arguments are not helping get people on your side.
It’s true that my title is over the top, but I think sometimes it’s the argument that’s too radical that gets people’s attention and discussion. Good content doesn’t matter if people don’t even click on it
jesus cry louder, literaly not the case, a LOT of aircraft dont have their weaponry for balance reason, you think thats only the case for russia ? the aircraft get balanced by their aircraft performance in those cases, they would act to bad with stronger missles which raises their br
Russia since a long time had a very strong advatange missle wise even, together with USA
A-10 and SU 25s in ARB decimated arb often trough all aspect missles while everyone else had rear aspect ones
Seriously you are not a victim, russia has been strong air wise since a long time, only right now is a current exception
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The Mig-29 radar was good enough for the time. when R-27ER released, basing it on my experience spading german Mig-29A in may last year.
It was objectively weaker than F-16s radar but it was balanced by AIM-7F/Ms being worse.
Oh yeah?
USA, Japan, Italy, France, Sweden and Israel all have AMRAAMs on excellent platforms.
Germany and UK have AMRAAMs on bad platforms.
UK has an excellent platform without AMRAAMs (R-Darters instead)
Only nations I see with both bad airframes AND bad weapons (throw in subpar avionics for good measure) are Russia and China.
I really fail to see how anything besides China, Russia and Germany suffers. (I feel for Germany, with double the CMs their F-4 wouldn’t be so bad).
Not really true, Russia has dominated in radar missiles, while USA had a stronger IR missile.
I am not going to lie, since they nerfed the MiG-29’s flight model and buffed the F-16 in the same update Russia has been struggling. SU-27 was good in Air Superiority because F-15A had bad radar missiles and no HMS.
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I think you posted on wrong forum
<---------- World of Hitpoints Forum is that way.
To be honest, I think it’s ridiculous to lower the br of a plane by hiding its weapons. My opinion is: restore the aircraft’s weapons and true capabilities, and send it to a higher weight, where the gap can be filled by an earlier version of the aircraft or some other similar vehicle with less capability. Concealed weapons are neither real nor fun, and are an insult to those who love certain vehicles. Not to mention the despicable act of deliberately leaving huge flaws in a country’s entire air force system
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i literaly play germany mainly, as someone who has it worse then russia i dont fell for you
Russia has the choice between the Mig29 with an excelent radar or the SU 27, both work perfectly fine
read this thread, he is complaining about every missle being worse and still both had their strengthens but both russia and usa mostly dominated above any other nation most of the time.
It is a rare moment where russia isnt one of the top 1-3 strongest nations for once
russias biggest advantage was the R-27er that never changed and that missle dominated and feared top tier since the longest while
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