Let’s talk about the chieftain

I’d rather it get the upgrades that it’s be overdue for many years and stay at 8.7 where it’s firepower is balanced by it poor mobility, there’s plenty of other vehicles that warrant the 9.0 bracket over the MK5. I’d definitely like to see a mk11 tho.

i mean im not saying keep it the same and go to 9.0, but if it gets a 6/7 second reload, LRF and possibly the dart if i can finalise this bug report. then it definitely shouldnt be seeing 7.7

just because others warrant 9.0 doesnt mean an upgraded cheiftain mk5 doesnt.
The t55AM1 And AMD1 could both be 9.0, i mean, look at the ZTZ88s? theyre 9.0 and do extremely well, and have marginally better rounds than the chieftain mk5. go 7kmph faster in a straight line, have similar turret armour and the hull is marginally better.

personally, in a downtier the chieftain can still absolutely demolish. But like i said, id like to see them introduce the various Mks of chieftains, we have a mk3 and 5 and a mk10 which is an upgraded 5.

id like to see the upgraded ones like mk3/3, as a mod.

mk5/4 with LRF etc etc etc.

The 120mm gun is fine. It’s the fact the turret has a nice weakspot that means you get insta nuked (which iirc isn’t that small) and the fact it takes a couple of business days to reposition.

Reload balancing factor ))))

Regardless, the T-55AM is undertiered like hell.

Anyway, getting back to what I wanted to say

Mk.3 → back to 8.3
Mk.5 → add LRF, add L15A5 perhaps
Mk.10 → Replace L23 with L23A1. L23 is not a service round. And either: add “Mk.11” upgrade which adds TI, or make new variant, foldered, that is the Mk.11.

Should be simple enough.

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The mk3 cannot go back to 8.3 mate that just re encourages compression. It had thr leo1 at 7.3 when it was 8.3
The mk3 is more than good at.8.7

The mk5 if it gets the L15A5, lrf and the appropriate buffs it can feasibly be 9.0 if the mk10 goes to 9.3 and subsequent 9.7s are.10.0 leo2k for example.

Mk10 should get the l23a1 but not the thermals.

But id love the nk11 as a folder at 9.3/ 9.7 with the khalid


Ammo for the Chieftain.
@Smin1080p_WT very sorry to bother you, could you ask the devs if they are planning to give the Mk.10 L23A1 with the BR increase (or if that would be something we could make a bug report for) since L23 wasn’t an in service round?

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Hey. L23A1 is not planned currently. A round being used in service is not a requirement for it to be provided to a tank. Experimental / prototype rounds can be used too.

Regarding the BRs, we hope to have some updated news to provide soon.

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T-55AM-1 doesn’t have the ammo to be under-BR’d. Worse APFSDS than my Chieftain’s APDS. One of them is just better armored against HEAT projectiles.
Chieftain Mk10 is so far superior to T-55AM-1 that Chieftain Mk10 would have to be equally under-BR’d by the same amount.

Mk10 with L23A1 would be 9.7.

Lmafo!!! Really??

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Sir, excuse me but what?

Reading this has somehow given me whiplash lol…

Sure, ill agrea the mk 10 is superior to the t55am, thats a given. However what isnt superior to the t55am is the mk 5 and 3, along with anything at 7.7 or even 8.0. The reason the chieftain was moved to 8.7 from 8.3 was because 7.3s just couldnt face it and it stomped quite hard in a full downtier. The t55am is in the same boat rn, it stomps 7.7 matches due to most of what it faces uses either heat or apds, which just LOVES to shatter on its composites. Not because the composites are that great but because apds rounds dont like layered armour which is sadly how the t55am is modelled.

The t55am not being comparable to vehicles at its own br wouldnt make it unique, many tanks are likes this due to them being far too good at a slightly lower br, the maus for example. In a full up tier its basically worthless as even angled most tanks can just disable it quickly as they are stabilised with good pen, however in a downtier is nigh invulnerable. And this is only one example off the top of my head.

Im not going to sit here and debate this again as i dont want a migrain but its fair to say the t55am needs to be moved up to 9.0, especially with these br changes making it not face the 10.0s it would have had to face which would have stomped it. Now with everything moving up this is the perfect time for it.

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T-55AM doesn’t “stomp” 7.7 matches.
It’s already one of the lesser 8.7s due to its bad rounds for the BR, Chieftain of which has a better kinetic round.
T-55AM-1 and Chieftain Mk5 cannot be moved up to 9.0 at this time.
ALL 8.7s in the game would have to move up with them, along with ALL >/= 9.0s in the game.
Along with many 7.7s and 6.7s.

Lmao, u think the mk 5 is equal to the t55am… alright. I may just have to buy the t55am to show you how wrong you are but im not going to argue any more than this. Stay in your little deluded world as i am not going over this with you again.

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But what about the fact that L23 never existed? L23A1 isn’t just the service round, it’s the only historical option.

It’s been bug reported but never fixed.

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Bro your stats on the vehicle says otherwise, it’s clearly your favourite ground premium and ironically it matches you K/D with the chieftain mk10 being basically 2:1. If the mk10 is op at its BR the t55-am-1 is as well going by your stats alone.

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You responded to the wrong post as I wasn’t the one saying a 9.3 Chieftain Mk10 and/or an 8.7 T-55AM-1 is OP.

Also yes, I love Chieftain MBTs and dislike the T-55A. Of course I’ll have a bias in favor of Chieftain tanks.

I found him! I found Alvis al-Visla, one of the most amazing Tank Commanders! His exploits in the Iran-Iraq war in his Chieftain Mark 5 are legendary!

If it has a boiling vessel I like it by default BTW.

so does that also not state on it that the 120mm l11 gun fires the L15A5 APDS T round? what document is that ? can u send me its name?

i said this to someone earlier in a disc and they had a meltdown, it literally would put it to 9.7 its round with over 220 60 degree pen, and nearly 400 flat pen, that at 9.3 is unheard of compared to even a leo2k that round is substantial.

dunno why everyones wanting to buff the mk10 like that, the L23 round is currently pretty potent,
why they dont ask for the MK11 Chieftain with TOGS, and the 23A1 round is beyond me.

and to get the L15A5 round and LRF for the damn mk 5


It’s from this book
I also found reference for the Usage of L15A5 on the Mk. 10 and 11



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M774 on the M60A3
M413, Merkava Mk.1B and Mk.2B (in two trees)
DM33 on the Class 3, M48 Super, C2A1, TAM 2IP, VFM5, MTTD, OF-40 MTCA, and 2 Leopard 1A5s
3BM28 on the T-62M-1
Type 93 used by 3 different models of Type 74
3BM42, 2S25
slpprj m/90c on the Strv 105
M426, uses by Magach 6C, 7C, 6B Gal, and Gal Batash

23 tanks, all at 9.3 or less in many cases, unless I missed something. Hardly crazy to imagine the Mk.10 being ON PAR with its counterparts.

This is all ignoring that the Chief is far slower and slower loading than most of these tanks as well.

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