And a better round in the dm63.
I would love to see new chieftains in game or things such as the mk5 given the name it should have and the technology and uprades it should have.
APS turret with 2 7.7s and a radar on the mk 5 would make me cry, simply because of how funny it would be.
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i mean id rather see that, something stupidly unique, than another marginally different abrams, Tseries, Leclerc, challanager merkava, or leo etc etc etc etc
why on gods earth do we not have all the groovy mad stuff that nations cooked up, like for example, the USA tree, has the M60A2 starship, that was nothing but a problem causer for the US and was essentially useless for them. yet theres all those T95 variants with new FCS, guns, composites, stabs etc.
or even the T55&t62 upgrades, for christ sakes theres some cool af looking T62 with composites and ERA all over em xD i know we have the T62M1 but its one of many different packages.
but nah, heres yet another leopard.
Also can you link me that, id love to see it
just wanna put a little caveat here, i just fired a 120mm round from the chieftain, into the T55AM1 hull, the prem, and the thing gave me a hit, yet he can one tap through the chieftain turret. how can such a heavy, large caliber round, A lack so much post pen damage compared to the APFSDS counter parts and B bounce off such a shambolic hull xD
or for example things like the tam sitting at 8.7 when it is absolutely worthy of 9.0.
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Its due to the composite on top being seperate tot he hull making it technically spaced armour in the eyes of gaijin. Thus causing most pads rounds to shatter, even the conqs cannon struggles to pen the t55am… Then they have the gual to say they get one shot by even cents… maybe learn to do something other than use the atgm (its what they always use for whatever reason).
Also ill try and send the image, its on my phone so ill have to do some messing around to get it to work.
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it didnt shatter! it bounced clean off as if it was a 120 degree angle xD it showed it going up the way off the hull. i really do not get why they use that ATGM… like at all, i swear if they gave the mk5 chief its LRF it would be 9.0, yet the tank with composites, a dart, an ATGM, better movility, smaller profile, arguably comparable survivability sits at 8.7
also dont sweat if its too difficult to get, cheers!
It never will, the glacis protection against L1G is 500mm or smthin
Having initially struggled with the Chieftain 3 and 5, and then overcome the struggle to find the vehicle to be comfortable and effective, I think it can hang at 8.7. I definitely wouldn’t complain if it went down to 8.3 and I would play it more, but I doubt it would stay at 8.3 for long.
It’s only problem is that it’s slow, everything else is great in my opinion. I find the 120mm apds round to be surprisingly lethal.
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The chieftain mk5 should get its L15A5 round and lrf and could possibly go to 9.0
The tanks are pretty defent to use and the apds is substantial.
The issue is the mk3 be a bit slower, the chieftains only issue is its armour.
There’s already plenty of better tanks at 8.7 that have a laser range finder, the chieftain mk5 wouldn’t need to go up to 9.0 because of a LRF, that’d be the death of it. 8.7 is perfect fot it with the lrf. If its to go to 9.0 everything above it also needs to go up again to spread things out even more.
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The lrf is all it really needs.
I really enjoy the chief mk5, I almost have a free ace crew on it.
All it really needs is the lrf for long range map goodness.
I wouldn’t mind an increase in reload speed, maybe around 6 seconds but if it gets a lrf I’d be happy as a clam.
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Absolutely, the reload is extremely slow.
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It always makes me laugh when I see the t-55, with its famously awful ergonomics has the same reload as a chieftain.
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Youre missing the historical l15A5 tungsten apds.
It should get that.
It would be fine at 9.0 seeing as all thr 10.0s will be 10.3
The mk5 cant reliably use its armour anyways even a lrf may possibly bump its br up.
The bug reports as far as ive seen are for reload and lrf.
With both of those upgrades (if it gets it) would see the mk5 go to 9.0, no 7.7 can contest it.
(That does not excuse the fact the t55s at 8.7 need to be 9.0 and the fact they havemt been moved yet baffles me)
Hence why im trying to make a substantial enough report for the L15A5 round and make it more competative.
Realistically its not gonna get any of this and will with the nk10 going to 9.3 go to 9.0.
Why? Cause then gaijin can say the mk3 is 8.7 worthy and the mk5 9.0
Or firing while going along at 40kmph when the chieftain had around a 98 percent first hit accuracy.
And could fire on the move extemely well.
Personally i don’t have any issues with the round currently, it performs extremely well imo, as for the armour I’ve definitely had afew rounds bounce on the turret at its current BR i personally would leave it with its current round, knock a second off the reload and give the MK5 a LRF, if the tam and t55-am-1 is at 8.7 the mk5 certainly doesn’t deserve to be 9.0.
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its not about an issue with the round, its the fact its missing half of its stuff. i mean the mk5 in game realistically is closer to a MK3/2, i was gonna say mk3/3 but even the mk3/3 had a bar and stround TLS (tank laser sight) laser range finder fitted as an upgrade. before the MK5s went into production as this happened in 1971 and the mk 5 went into production in 75 if sources are to be believed.
In my honest opinion, ( i love the chieftains so it is biased) i would rather see them add the Mk11 at 9.3, have the mk10 stay 9.0, and if they actually gave the mk5 its proper upgraded systems, e.g FCS, LRF and ofc the L15A5 or L23 round, then sure it “could” go to 9.0, in theory its fine at 8.7 if it got the LRF and even maybe a new round.
however, now that all the 10.0 bracket has moved up, and a substantial amount of the 9.7s, the chieftains will start to see more downtiers. meaning that they statistically will look better than they are as we are now. id rather see the chieftain mk5 get its upgrades, be made it a mk5/4 or whatever it is and move up pre emptively with said upgrades.
the mk3 cannot move down, and cannot move up. it too could be made into a MK3/3 and given its LRF
When bringing it to 9.0 and then getting a full uptier, thats when it (Chief 5) struggles. However at 8.7/9 it is decent. I am not the best player, but it has gotten me closer to nukes than any other vehicle in game so far.
Get hurt by reload, Max Reload on all my vehicles + Commander skill. But maybe if I experted the crew the extra 0.6 sec might be useful or aced for 1.1 sec…
Side note: TAM’s are cancer.
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the tam is a horrendously good vehicle.
The mk5 chieftain i actually do worse than my MK3 somehow.
yet the mk5 with an expert crew i have about 8.1 seconds reload, which is substanital for that round at that BR, however, you also have at 9.3 soon, the mk10 cheiftain which is realistically just a mk5 with extra armour, LRF and the L23 dart. now the still brew is potent, but at the end of the day its still a chieftain and it is sluggish compared to say, a leo1a5, which has DM33, thermals, LRF, substantially more mobility.
So realistically, if we get the mk5 buffed, it can go to 9.0 and probably will due to how gaijin like to balance