Yeah, i started writing it thinking it would only be one thing but then i just didnt stop… basically how it goes with anything british.
remember we had L15A5 and then they changed it down to L15A3 and why aren’t the later rounds researchable?
it was the stock round for the Challenger Mk.2, they’ve never been available for anything since.
I would it like if the Challenger 1Mk 2 go back to 9.7 again I think the l15a5 should be stock round on Chieftain mk 10 and researchable for mk 3 & 5 but that’s up to the gaijin devs
So, I used the Chieftain in combat for the first time, and yes, I want to point out there are problems, as mentioned; the vehicle is splendid in its own right. I love the accuracy and the firepower of the cannon, but because I am fighting vehicles with APFSDS rounds, it is a loss of potential; being at 8.7 is just a bit too much. Mk 5 has slightly better mobility in AB 33 MPH as opposed to the Mk3, but I entirely agree with you because the vehicle still uses bare steel as armor and none of that composite armor (not until you get MK 10 ); unfortunately, it seems to struggle at higher BR’s
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Unfortunatly the Chieftains are over BR’ed really they should be moved down to 8.3 or even 8.0. The Mk.10 should go no lower than 8.7 though.
A small part of me does think though that there might even be a slim agurment for 7.7 for the Mk.3 on the basis that its 120mm gun has less pen than the 120 of the Conq, it does however reload quicker. Cheiftain does have better frontal armour too though.
I agree with the frontal armor ( I wished they added the Mk 11, you know, with the fancy TOGS ). I seriously don’t like the Mk 10 Centurion in an 8.0 Battle; it just doesn’t seem to fit.
The current Mk.3/5 BRs are okay, the uptiers absolutely suck but its a good reason to use the Vickers 11/Warrior/Fox/Rooikat 1D instead.
There’s a lot behind L15A3 that just isn’t on the statcard, the slope and composite modifiers are vastly better than many other APDS and even some APFSDS, it can happily punch through the T-55AM-1 glacis and several IS tanks where the Conqs L1G will struggle to do anything.
If there’s any buff I’d really want, without risking an arbitrary BR increase, it would be a 1st stage reload similar to the Challengers (6 or 6.5s for a few rounds, 7.5 after).
Trying to spade the Type 74C was a miserable experience, M392A2/L28 APDS is just poor.
no joke, give HESH a try, I’ve been finding it some what reliable these days
This is so sad… back in 2016, Chieftain Mk.3 was AMAZING, even though it wasn’t meta even back then.
At least its armor could withstand many of its opponents.
However, as its current state, it’s just significantly slower than anything it faces WHILE ALSO its armor is rendered useless by their firepower; and, to top it off, its rivals also tend to have thermals and/or laser rangefinder while it has none of these.
There is still such major decompression left to do (ideally not involving yet more uptiers for the Chieftains).
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I would rate the MK10 as being the best Chieftain variant, can’t really find myself going back to playing the 8.7 variants, the turret is so tough that once I got to the camping position, the only way to kill me is by CAS lol. The smoke shells also offsets the poor mobility since you can mask the route to the camping spot with smoke. There was a time I was considering getting the Khalid but quickly decided not to get it when I found out it doesn’t have the MK10 turret.
I’d pay money for the Mk.5 to be upgraded to Mk.5/L spec, adds a LRF, and the Mk.3 to Mk.3/3 spec, adds LRF and a 720hp engine, was the first deployment of LRFs on production mbts.
I’d like a Mk.9 aswell, would essentially be a Mk.10 without the additional armour, so a bit more mobile
Tbh this is why I think the Mk.3 and 5 need to go down in BR. or at the very least we need some BR decompression.
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i still say they should give the mk 5 its historicle laser range finder as a part of the many upgrades the mk 5 got was one of them. Would make it perfect 8.7 with the mk 3 being able to be moved down. addding the mk 11 to top it off would fill in the brs for britain making one of my most favourite ranks even better.
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This is still my opinion.
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“easy fix” add regenerative steering so that when you tap either the A or D key you dont come to a stop. honestly it would fix the mobility issue as due to the track brake steering and low hp/tone gaijin assumes it can only go in a straight line…
It’s been what? 11 years since regenerative steering has been suggested/rumoured? Who knows when it’ll be added.
it probably wont for a few reasons, Hard to implement(easier to add pointless stuff like digging), t72 based tanks including the t90’s dont have regen steering and they would have to change BR’s of alot of vehicles which is hard but adding new 3d model is easy and can make money off that
Really? I’ve honestly had a lotta times when I’ve tanked darts with my Olifant mk2, mostly because I play hull down with the thing. Tbf the thing’s armour is awful apart from the composite screen lol. It is a lot more versatile than the chieftain and is arguably better than the chief at long range though (gen 2 thermals + faster reload)
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Bug report already done on the Chief’s reload. Acknowledged for a year and thread closed for 9 months. Finna guess its gonna be until the big patch after the next one, or just next year tbh.
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