Specifically, the ONLY German tank that could handle the 13.0+ BR range against the Abrams X, Cringemata etc, is the Panther KF51. the 2A8 is like one of the 10 T80 and T70 variants, its one more vehicle but NOT enough of a leap to keep out.
You mean the tank only Italy will get? Lol
Tbh I don’t know why people look towards the poor-man’s Leo 3 so much lol.
Germany will get a Leo 3 w/130mm (which has already begun its design process) and it’s guaranteed to perform vastly better.
Leo 2A7V is already missing likke 30-40% of its frontal armor so…
1 Like
As much as 50% depending on whether it’s KE or CE protection, actually.
Tbh they should just fix it now that it’s easily killable.
1 Like
And force soviets to aim? Not happening
Italy and Hungary
So Italy will get 2 of them
Obviously they wouldn’t do that
Italys Leopard 2A8 negotiations fell through and Hungary has not ordered them.
We can only hope that the handful sent to Italy before the deal fell through count
u are aware he answered to your post about KF51s right?
1 Like
buddy, there were never any send to italy in the first place, no 2a8 is built yet
I saw after the fact, didn’t care to correct 🤷♂️
I do think KF-51s should be added to Italy though for sure
oh definitly both italian and hungarian versions
But the KF51 130mm demonstrator to germany
Why didn’t Germany get demonstrator Kf-41? Wouldn’t make sense if Germany got the KF-51 if they used Kf-41 logic.
IIRC Gaijin did say Germany will get a KF-41 at some point, but it’s not like Gaijins word means much
gajins other games have the KF51 in germany already as well
Those games are only published by gaijin and not developed by them.
I thought some were already built and a few got sent to Italy for discussions on how to produce certain components in Italy (or something)?
If the two models are different enough i don’t see why don’t have both