Leopard 2A7V / 2A7HU discussion & bugs

While you’re at it, make a report about how BMP-2s autocannons are way too accurate in WT.

(What a way to start off a discussion with asking whether the playerbase is fine with a nerf… after you already filled out a report for the 2A4 lol, by the way, are you in favour of historic anti-ERA modifiers for nearly every Western APFSDS?).

I mean, on the Russian side, you seem to be 100% convinced the information we used for 2A7Vs report isn’t enough:

But we used all the publicly available sources, and even the Swedish Trials that Gaijin consitently makes use of (but hey, they’re apparently fantasy), lol.

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If you have sources, make a bug report, it will be looked into

You would be in favor of T80’s getting their acceleration nerfed?

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You have to realize that this applies to all tanks. You can check this from the same documents. So essentially you’re just slowing down absolutely everyone

The only other tank on this information with valid data is the STRV 104, i’d be down to get Centurions nerfed as well.

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I think you should research these Abrams and Leopards values

No, those have no values for the top speed, would you mind sharing them?

You in favour of getting T-72s reload nerfed to 7.5s?

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No, I won’t. You can look in other sources.

In any case I don’t know what this has to do with my original question.

I was questioning the person’s historical interest as they only see inaccuracies if they enhance the tank.

It’s already correct
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It’s irrelevant, every tank in game drives with automatic gearboxes.

Or you would be in favor on getting the commander overtake on the PLSS removed?

I guess that is why the manual indicates a combat reload speed of 8 rds/m (7.5s per rds), rather than the literal perfect case scenario as your cyclogram.

Why are you dodging the question when I effectively exposed the fact that the person is not interested in historical accuracy at all, but only in improving the 2a7?

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Ideal values are accepted in the game.

No, i won’t, because the sources you’re mentioning doesn’t exist.
The only mention about acceleration with Swedish Trials is done about the Leclerc, saying it is faster than their competitors.

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Right.

On one hand we have;

  • completely inaccurate visual model
  • absolutely inaccurate damage model
  • inaccurate penetration of the DM53 APFSDS
  • incorrect behaviour of DM53 against ERA
  • incorrect acceleration
  • incorrect crew placement (yes, I too love when my gunner is sitting below his optics)

On another hand we have:

  • different zoom for day sight

“Not interested”.

Ideal values are accepted in the game.

Why isn’t Leclerc’s reload 5 seconds then… rules for thee but not for me?

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You can discuss this issue in the bugreport

Well why are you dodging this?

You kept sperging out how Wareta was “dodging” yours, but now you’re doing what you accused them off, just with my question.

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If you think I’m going to discuss leclercs in a thread about leopard, you’re deluded. It’s off-topic.