Leopard 2A7V / 2A7HU discussion & bugs

do you want me to post all the bugs as i don’t want to do it in this topic

No I’m aware of the issues on the Chally.

oh ok i hope they fix the add on armour and then do the same to other western tanks that use something simlar

Type 10 is the most wrong one between all MBT’s not only the armor model is not covering the right ammount but it’s wrong it’s missing armor and the Hull armor is reversed and upside down The type 10 armor model it’s pretty much wrong in every sense including breach wich it’s funny and sad

Someone is forgetting Leclerc as Well.

Both tanks have wrong values on every section but Leclerc in this case is even worse.

well with leclerc you could remove the armor and the tank would benefit from it

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with the leclerc is really bad but not at the point that even the armor model itself its wrong like the type 10, its not like the leclerc armor its reversed and upside down it just has the wrong armor values as of rn

No armor=no spalling

No spalling=no damage.

İts a win win, i like it.

At least you have some hull armor with much better reload and penetration on Type-10.

That bein said both tanks should recieve proper treatment in this case.

yes and im talking about the armor here claiming the leclerc armor its worse than the type 10 its wrong since the type 10 has both armor model issues and armor values issues, if you wanna talk about the shell and reload issues the Leclerc has a 5.5 second reload and that’s something that needs to be corrected the type 10 has a 3.2 second reload wich its pretty much a Bkan the Leclerc could get either a shell buff or a new shell since they have other 3 shell possibilities and the type 10 round lenght and density its incorrect meaning it would need a buff in penetration but well that’s how things go

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Leclerc has worse armor then Type-10, especially in gun breach and hull section, first wrong claim.

İt has 6 second reload, second wrong claim.

So you want even better reload time on Type-10 with armor buff?

Leclerc should get its proper armor values, reload time and better shell, out of question.

Gonna need source to see that.

the reload was meant the IRL reload of the leclerc i was just saying how things should go for this tanks if it was reallistic the Type 10 does have worse armor at this point for some reason you want to take my words out of context the gun breach of the Leclerc its worse of course its missing armor but aswell that goes for the type 10 also the Type 10 does have worse armor
Against DM53 fired from 500 meters:

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Against DM53 fired from 500 meters:

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Which is still a wrong claim considering many sources states 5 second reload is the real value for standart reload time, not to mention we were talking about in game values.

İt doesnt, Type-10 has 3 level of armor protection and even then base level should be able to stop its own round from point blank. Both tanks probably have similiar armor profiles when it comes to hull armor protection based on documents, Leclerc beats Type-10 when it comes to turret protection irl.

İts not just missing armor Leclerc’s breach is also gigantic compare to Type-10, nevertheless almost every tank suffers in this area(except certain nation but i will not discuss it right now).

You just proved that Leclerc is even more miserable then Type-10 with those photos, entire hull armor is weakspot on Leclerc while both shares similiar weakness on turret section.

Yea its safe to say Type-10 has better protection from front overall.

Sure bug report when?

Just sayin this is about the leopard not the type 10 or leclerc. Maybe move it somewhere else or something?

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True, my bad.

yeah srry

there is a difference between incompetent and refusing to do it
gaijin is professional at the latter one…

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Wait so 2A7V is missing LWS as well?

It’s a 2A7VA1/2A8. It also btw, confirms new hull armour @Smin1080p ;))))))))

So much for the devs “we have no reason to believe the armour was upgraded” argument.

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change-my-mind
Im just gonna put this pic here until they did anything about issues on A7V
which, quite unfortunately, would only arrive s∞n

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