Leopard 2A7V / 2A7HU discussion & bugs

By the way the 2A7V has a literal hole in the turret if the gun is fully elevated, you can look into the crew compartment.


Wonder how much armour is presented where is this hole is

On the 2A5 is their a hole in the left cheeck somewhere as i shot right though it with i can’t recall the name but the first APFSDS you get on the T80um2 or T80UK

Not error comrade, it is simply a window for the crew to let some fresh air in :)
/s

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ah so in case to get fresh air in they lift the gun up ? XD
is that the same reason that sometimes ru tanks decide to throw the turret out ?
:D

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I hope that fixes at least some of the armor holes and ricochet problems

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Good joke

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Any 2A7 have add on roof armour. I’ve come across from playing Britain with its CR2 having spaced roof armour I never die to arty. But god damn in leopards the roof is so week when arty is called on me I have to move because it kills me everytime

2A7V has no roof armor, thats only 1 version of the Strv122s

2A7HU have roof armor add-on, but i doubt its going to Germany, though we can give many Leopards with add-on roof armor if you count other Leo 2’s, like 2A6EX or 2E, for example.

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Damn no version of it? Sad having to move out the way of arty hurts

Yeah that will likely end up in the Italian tree

Depends if germany gets 2A7+, it could get roof armor, but currently in service is none with roof armor, future 2a8 should have it

Always amazes me people come up with these things.
Abrams noise level at 50 feet is the same as that of a Leopard 2.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/552972193856880640/916053264619929620/unknown.png?ex=65b2bb15&is=65a04615&hm=6610b860dbb28ad9544cf90e4530212f61007a24cfe54e748bb6d0ac325bee67&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/552972193856880640/916055329815539712/unknown.png?ex=65b2bd02&is=65a04802&hm=50a10e4a4cca0f0722e0b86e71712b1394b1b3a40db8516afea78b0084c01b75&

Comparison of Abrams and MTU engine very similar to the 873, note difference in measuring distance.
TF15 noise levels at 4m are actually the same (look at the blade passing frequency).
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/552972193856880640/916053238309077072/unknown.png?ex=65b2bb0f&is=65a0460f&hm=147f787d5171e40f831af035e948032d4399b8876ff60a6bd0b6398a2d3dbbc1&

Fuel tanks on Abrams and their bulkheads are accurate, UFP is also accurate (1.5" even for latest SEPv3).
Turret ring has always been a weak point on American tanks since M47, the M48 for example had it’s turret jammed from 12.7mm fire in testing.
While autocannons may not necessarily penetrate the turret ring like in WT (although I doubt it), they would most definitely jam the turret.

Edit: I should note that NONE of the BMPs in the Russian tree should get APDS let alone APFSDS…
Even right now in Ukraine they are just using AP, not once has there been an APDS round spotted for them.

Anti-ERA tip stuff would effectively make A3 only on par with L44 DM53 if it was implemented for both.
Not that they ever would, but oh well…

Abrams is always going to be relatively easy to kill due to the turret ring being ginormous and if they ever decide to fix the APFSDS ricochet behaviour it’s only going to get worse because the UFP will be swiss cheese for any 115mm APFSDS or bigger…

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Even with roof add-on it won’t change anything, the way Gaijin has it modelled right now anything overpressures the roof as it’s only 20mm thick, the composite roof add-on doesn’t really change that because of how poorly it’s modelled.

Strv 122s are still killed by 125mm HE, arguably even easier because you can just directly shoot the roof that is now sticking up…
The overpressure BS mechanic needs to be reworked completely or removed because it makes absolutely no sense.

The reason why CR2s are so “immune” to it is because their whole turret base structure is one cast piece which also seems to be thicker than it should be directly on the roof and just thick enough to withstand the overpressure BS.

Naturally 125mm HE has that 42mm pen, enough to “pen” or overpressure almost any NATO tank, but not other Soviet tanks ;)

faithful recreation or something, dunno i dont speak snail :D

Fuel tanks are fully enclosed and someone measured it up, directly at the port that there are actually 2 plates.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/xK4GPBS59dUL

:))

1:35 model is better than Gaijin’s

The plastic model is in line with the actual neck protector as well:

Somehow only Gaijin got it wrong. To me it seems like half the issue is the fact the turret ring is portruding out too much.

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To be fair it’s also a pretty good overpressure spot for russian HE or even big enough missiles.

I overpressured one of the 122s that way with my ADATS a few weeks ago.

50/50 chance, we get better leos or we get Gaijined