This is the same armour that in testing achieved a CE reduction against a single stage HEAT warhead of ~930mm btw…
Yes, it is missing around ~95% of its protection capability, and that’s been reported a long time ago :P
None of the Leopard 2 turret can actually provide the protection achieved turing the 1993/1994 trials, all of them are about ~400mm (or ~700mm if your name is 2A7V) weaker.
Yes I’m well aware, I believe the armour plates inside of the wedges are also not simulated? At least they are not visible on any 2A5, 2A6 etc if you use the Nvidia picture mode.
Nope. Reported recently:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/JoVCTLEehFPa
They’re meant to fix one of the issues we’ve seen during the Swedish Trials (i.e boost protection over the mantlet area from a wider angle).
Basically weakpoint erasure measure.
Is there any “master thread” that has all leo reports even for other leopards including strv 122s etc?
There’s a “Leopard 2 and its prototypes - Inaccuracies and Discussion” thread by @Toxindragon, but it doesn’t deal with vehicles like Strv 122 and its sub-variants, other than that, no.
And the armor holes
another update, no leo, disappointed
LOOOOOOL
Gaijin just refuses to give anything better armor than russia, or any rounds that could pen russian tanks lmao
It’s so fucking joever…
We have no reliable evidence that armor enhancements compared to the prototype submitted to the Swedish tender were ever carried out,
Old armor package tested in the swedish trials
New armor package - identical to whats found on the Strv 122.
Really “no reliable evidence”. Dont they know how what a modern Leopard 2 looks like? Why do they think they use the same armor as the TVM?
This is due to the fact that the Swedish versions of these tanks received their own, completely new, reinforced armor package of their own production, both in the hull and and on the turret
The same armor that the Leopard 2A5/6 later adopted? The TVM Mexas 3rd generation addon was never adopted.
so at this time we don’t believe that it’s possible to further enhance the protection of this tank
So they “believe” that Germany was incapable of replacing the hull armor with the same armor they used in the turret? That was developed in 1988?
Weird that we all have the statements that the internal armor was improved.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/0CFMwFL5w4lk
Leopard 2A7V presented in the game is based on the “B” package. However, according to the data we have, this is not the case
So the base armor without the addon provides the 600+ KE armor value that is known from D-tech? In game thats currently not reflected.
Really this is not even funny. Are they doing this on purpose?
“…As for the difference in protection between the Swedish versions of the Leopard 2 and the German Leopard 2A7V (the Swedish versions have more, which may seem illogical)…”
Gaijin: "Guys hear me out! Germany and US uses armor from the 80s up to this day (Source: Trust me)
love that bullshit excuse to make sure taking the swedish trails for a tank that is 20 years newer now
And pretend like nothing changed xD
Using protection analysis lool
and not showing vs what kind of ammo lmao dm53 from L44 at 900mm ? or the swdish sl… m95 from strv with 589 pen at 0 meters
then it looks the same if you don’t consider the vertical angle
And yes they said 600mm so i had to test a bit and took dm53 from the L44 because it was exactly 600 and the sl…95 because it was close to it…
I am SO done
currently i am gonna get the vilkas and then just quit war thunder for some time blatantly not worth playing
My SSD felt whole 50gb’s lighter all of the sudden.
Armor issues must be fixed! GAIJIN’s actions were completely intentional!
@Smin1080p
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/0CFMwFL5w4lk
The information we provided is completely useless, right?
He is completely fooling us…
