Well, yes. You got my point tho.
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The Leclerc is currently missing substantial mobility since its underperforming for the acceleration ,like the type 10, reload speed, different option for the smokes, thermal quality as well, since out of 4 tanks 3 probably need to get the thermal quality changed. And some other stuff that im not actively working on it, however this is not a Leclerc thread, so lets keep talking about the vehicle in this thread, the 2A7V
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Reload speed and acceleration should definitly be fixed if inaccurate, but likely wouldnt make a massive impact on its performance.
Smoke options arent a thing in-game, and gen 2 thermals across the board is hardly something to complain about, granted they should be pushed up to gen 3 if they were gen 3 irl. Gaijin likes to lie about their stance on thermals though, seeing as when I pointed out that if they went by their rule of “thermal resolution trumps thermal generation” all russian vehicles would be knocked down to gen 1 thermals, so they quickly backtracked on that rule, but then have once again backtracked with some gen 3 TGP’s like the one on the German Tornado IDS being modelled as a gen 2
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Reload speed always have an impact in game, acceleration may be debetable, however if lets say the 2A7V had accurate acceleration it would be get to spot quicker than the 122’s for example.
They are. Leclercs currently can launch 2 salvo of smokes, then they’re out, that is what im refeering to, they should have more options on that regard.
The M1A2 had its reload time reduced and its still eating dirt. Is a better reload better? Of course it is. Will it make a massive difference on a tanks performance in-game? Not really. Reload speed being off is a much smaller performance issue thank something like an artificial weakspot being added that reduces or ruins the armor profile of a vehicle for example.
The 122 has better acceleration AND top speed than the 2A7V atm, and even if the acceleration on the 2A7V was fixed, its likely it wouldnt have much of an impact either. Once again, like reload, itd be nice, itd be accurate, but its not a massive deal either. The acceleration issue on the 2A7V is different than that of the leclerc too, seeing as the 2A7V has incorrect acceleration DESPITE having the negative of a lower top speed, which was done SPEIFICALLY to improve acceleration. The leclerc only has incorrect acceleration, which is even less of an issue.
I thought you meant different types of smokes, and if your referring to salvo sizes, im pretty sure most tanks can control salvo sizes irl, so its still kind of a “gaijin doesnt model that” situation…
Smoke in general is a very lazy implementation ingame, which should suprise no one, seeing as gaijin develops this game, and predominantly puts care an effort into things that benefit russian vehicles, which is how were over a decade into the game and still steering with clutch braking, seeing as the russians never seemed to have figured out how to get passed that
Which falls into the category Devs are lazy.
This is correct, however if they fix the 2A7V, it would have 2A4-type level of acceleration, honestly i’d take the lower top speed but better acceleration.
Thats player fault, not vehicle.
Which is my whole point. An improved reload is an improvement, but it wont make a massive difference in the vehicles performance. Its a nice bonus, not a make or break thing. Unless were talking about like, doubling the ROF or something, in which case yeah that’s different.
If you recall, my whole point regarding the leclerc was that its very much not an MBT whose performance is being substantially held back like the Originaire said. There could be improvements, sure, but nothing that’d put it head and shoulders above other nations tanks, or even on par at this point quite frankly. That DOESNT mean I dont think those issues should be fixed though. Just that Originaire is overblowing how bad the issues with the Leclerc are.
I mean, sure, but thats not a big deal regardless…
Which affects all nations, not just France or the Leclerc, nor is it a major performance issue either…
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I may also be biased or misinformed about how bad some nations vehicles are modelled, seeing as the ones I focus on are predominantly western jets, and german MBT/IFV/AA vehicles, and some, like the 2A7V, and Puma IFV are so abhorrently modelled, that they literally require reworks of their models to “fix” issues and thats ignoring all the game stat issues like projectile weight/dimensions, overheating time, penetration values, armor plate thickness values, etc… but I really dont think the Leclerc is so badly modelled that if it was completely fixed it would change the vehicles gameplay and BR like fixing the Puma IFV would for example.
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To be fair, the reload applied to all 120mm M1’s and the M1A1 jumped up to a 66% winrate.
Yes.
Reload rate is among the most important metrics, and possibly more important than the often overrated armour metric.
Are you in favor of historic 8-12x in the gunner’s scope for all leopards?
Are you in favor of historic carousel autoloader jamming for all T series tanks?
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Why are you responding with a question to a question that is off topic. I was responding to a direct assertion of leo2a7v’s adherence to historical details
While you’re at it, make a report about how BMP-2s autocannons are way too accurate in WT.
(What a way to start off a discussion with asking whether the playerbase is fine with a nerf… after you already filled out a report for the 2A4 lol, by the way, are you in favour of historic anti-ERA modifiers for nearly every Western APFSDS?).
I mean, on the Russian side, you seem to be 100% convinced the information we used for 2A7Vs report isn’t enough:
But we used all the publicly available sources, and even the Swedish Trials that Gaijin consitently makes use of (but hey, they’re apparently fantasy), lol.
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If you have sources, make a bug report, it will be looked into
You would be in favor of T80’s getting their acceleration nerfed?
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You have to realize that this applies to all tanks. You can check this from the same documents. So essentially you’re just slowing down absolutely everyone
The only other tank on this information with valid data is the STRV 104, i’d be down to get Centurions nerfed as well.
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I think you should research these Abrams and Leopards values
No, those have no values for the top speed, would you mind sharing them?
You in favour of getting T-72s reload nerfed to 7.5s?
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