I made a bug report in regards to its UFP being lolpenned even at 83º angles:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/Ed3Ywu8hrDm9
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Yesterday an M1a1 aim killed me through the ufp, even though it was angled lol, it was absolutely bull…hope the devs fix this.
still amazing that they had time to fix spalling etc
but fixing 2a7v naah
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@Smin1080p Hey there! Do you have any info about the hull front plate armor bug report on the 2a7V? the report was made 9 days ago on the dev server and unfortunately it got added this way in the live server and the Developer team still didn’t even bother to answer. When can we expect an answer from the Development team about this report?
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So the UFP armor goes back to Leo2a6 level after tanking a single hit? That’s hilarious. Does it do that on the Strv122?
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The fact people separated the strv 122 despite it only being a certain package of upgrades from KMW and Rheinmetall just because it is supposedly somewhat domestically Swedish is why we have this weird discrepancy. There was never any credibility to the idea that the Swedes ever had any armor improvements for the leopard 2 apart from what was already available in the program. Even the claim that the composite armor was a “Swedish Solution” admits that KMW was needed.
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Yea the roof parts are easily knocked off but I think the actual hull front addon is not destructible
so it’s only visual? because this seems like the kind of “mechanic” they would add to gimp it, like how the turret cheeks fall off after a couple of hits (also hilarious)
Most of the time it does not make a difference, I’ve taken ~10 shots to the UFP even after I lost all my armour in the PLSS, I doubt it will be different in the 2A7V. The only difference is that you will die quicker in the 2A7V due to the smaller area that actually stops high pen rounds.
At least this one is realistic.
(hit by artillery and a lancet drone)
Darts and 155mm HE are not comparable, yet both make it fall off after a couple hits
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Not entirely unrealistic, at least when it comes to hits with large HEAT or HE warheads like Kornet.
APFSDS probably shouldn’t knock them off after 2 hits though.
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Its not that accurate yea but, unlike the hull, this has little difference on protection levels. Also the artillery shell was a 152mm that hit over the idler wheel on the left side which knocked it off its hinges. If a dart / HEATFS / HE were to hit the hinges enough it would also fall off.
Oh it’s little difference, damn. You should call KMW and let them know they’re wasting their time with those wedges on their last idk how many Leo versions
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Its not solid composite, its mainly hollow. We have pictures of it, sure its more protection (Mainly against CE threats) but its not the difference like the 2A5 hull and strv122 hull.
Quite a lot actually. Due to the mantlet area undperforming (significantly might I add), the weakspot size increases dramatically;
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What does the wedge have to do with underlying composite? The wedge itself is not the majority of KE protection that the leo turret has.
That it boosts the protection over the mantlet area, once it’s gone, that goes down to pathetic levels (like ~390mm at best).
Now, it wouldn’t be nearly so much of a problem if Gaijin could get their heads out of their asses, and fix the mantlet protection levels.
damaging the dart before it starts penetrating the armor can make it tumble and lose most of its effectiveness
To be fair that partly WTs lack of protection for most breach’s, I doubt that there is a significant change in apfsds that can pen the breach from higher angles with and without the wedge.