i guess thats what the US bubble does to one
its a you problem, you only have ears and eyes for things you hate, literaly all your threads are complains i hate this so much or this needs to go down in my favour.
If you actualy would look at other stuff for once you might actualy learn sth besides complaining which you arent even do well, your weird stinger br thing still is so leaky like a bucket without bottom
Wtf are you rambling about?
ah just the usual stuff you are doing, you should understand it pretty well
guess i was right lol
literaly gets brought up by germans and or french regulary
Ima just go. And while I’m gone, I think you should consider getting off the panzerschokolade.
armor chocolate???
staying away from german threads would so you good yes, you dont bring anything useful either way
It would be very interesting to introduce the Leopard 2 A7+ demo version in the German tree, it could be measured better against the Swedish lineup, the versions with trophy or ARENA-M, from my personal point of view belong to a new higher level, +1 from me.
as a event vehicle
+1 but lets be real it will be a premium since it has a camo net. I don’t get why they felt the need to add a polish and canadian leopards instead of german made ones. It will be annoying with future nation additions. Germany should also have the right to have a better leopard line-up than sweden considering the origin of the vehicle.
there is 1 picture with camo net, that realy doesnt mean anything, It doesnt need to be added with it.
And you might forget but gajin did start adding camo nets into tech tree as well
both of those are german made as well just exported. There is leoaprds like the turkish ones which germany had nothing to do with, but canadian and the polish ones being added to germany is reasonable.
That being said the polish one would have had the full revolution kit version they could have added instead. The 2a4m can doesnt have a replacement and belongs into germany.
To correct myself: German operated ones or made to be operated by the german army. Gaijin has said they’ll add Poland eventually so why would they make another nation’s MBT the squadron one for germany which isn’t meant to be a sub-tee? Pretty weird choice. Looking at the AU abrams too.
Canada should not be in Germany in the first place. You have both Switzerland and Austria to support german line-ups and instead they choose Canada? That nation is now spread over 3 trees. I feel bad for any canadian players out there.
These choices are obviously dictated by money. If you wanna play Canada well pay up Canadians. We put it in the german line just so there won’t be any backlash. I didn’t see anyone complain about the french leopards and those are TT. I don’t think it’s a controversial take that Canada should’ve gone to Britain.
nah, that is generaly not how gajin implements vehicles, you could scrap so many vehicles in the game in that case.
us abrams, chinese vt-4, uk challenger 2e, vickers etc etc.
leo 2 PSO aint made for germanyx either
what stops them from adding it to poland as well? candian skink, ram 2,
french ito 90m all are added into multiple trees
Besides that there is polish 2PL tanks that were modified by poland for newer standards as well by themself for implementation
canada isnt in the german tech tree. the german leopard is. its the vehicle that matters not the nation.
canada and australia vehicles are in the US as well because the vehicles share huge connections to it.
we dont? besides switzerland not being officialy announced and being only 1 squadron and 1 premium right now, germany doesnt have a single austrian vehicle those are in france and in sweden as of right now.
not every nation is worth being added, of course its sad and i support a standalone tree.
But it cant be added to UK anymore, UK already has to many subtrees with to many major vehicle kinds
oh there was from both france and germany. but germany at the end just laughed it off cause its bad copy paste vehicles for france either way.
Gerrmany only cares about the 2a4m can because its a unique kmw developed modification for the 2a4. It has collectors worht
in itself it is not. The controversial part and the one which makes it impossible is Britain already having South africa and India as sub trees. Giant subtrees with huge potential which added a lot stuff and have a huge future.
Other countries should get their first one first before UK gets their freaking 3rd one.
Germany is more comparable to france and uk then it is to US/russia and modern china development wise and germany should as example receive a subtree first before Uk gets their 3rd.
Before anything else israel should get one and japan their ground line that being said
You just told what everyone already knows, but no, nations like CA and AU don’t belong just as spread ones throughout multiple trees just because their vehicles were made elsewhere. The shared vehicles door was opened long ago. Also just how many South African players are there compared to CA or AU? India and SA should’ve gone somewhere else or not added at all.
Leo 2 PSO would have been a much better option for a squadron than PL. The difference with those 2 is that one was made in germany and that’s it, it has no connection to other nations just like those other test beds.
Germany already has 2 options for sub trees. Those being Switzerland and Austria.
2PL is german made as well, no part of its development was in the hand of poland
as i said we dont, show me one official statement where its said those are subtrees,
Besides that you ever looked at switzerland and austria? They are realy bad subtrees and not comparable to other subtree nations. If you think they are equal to the likes of india, thailand, SA, hungary, netherlands and belgium you are plain wrong.
The modern vehicles of switzerland austria are just more german stuff as well at the end of the day, and thats where the money for gajin is and what makes stuff worth implementing and attracts the new and most players.
The stuff switzerland and austria would bring in that regard are heavily restricted
You are straight up lying. Leo 2PL is a joint modernization with polish armament groups and it’s meant for Poland, not for Germany.
Austria doesn’t have any vehicles in the game yet but you don’t know anything about the equipment they do have or have had.
What you’re probably talking about is that those nations haven’t undergone a modernization (yet) and don’t have anything to add to 12.0, but that could change in the near future and Germany has more than enough options for high tier leopard tech demos that can be added. Another 10.7 MBT is what Germany needs rn and those nations could add.
i take it you are not aware what the rheinmetall revolution kit then
This my friend is a private venture from rheinmetall to offer Leopard 2a4 users an upgrade option for their Leopard 2a4 which is highly modifiable to the requirements of the customers where they can choose what they need. It has been developed and later been adopted by poland partialy as well as singapore
and indonesia
the only part poland had in it if anything was the choice of radio equipment and so on they wanted to add. the armor kit purely german.
Your ignorance about the history of the tank doesnt make you right
and once again you are wrong
We as a fact do have austrian vehicles in the swedish and french tree, like i stated earlier already
seriously just cause you are ignorant of them doesnt make you right, educate and research a bit yourself about stuff and their history first and you wouldnt continously be wrong
their modernisations is more leopards, austria just ordered 2a8s, they dont bring anything to the game because they literaly only have german stuff, you posting those lists doesnt do anything cause you are just agreeing to what i said.
And most stuff that is unique for them wouldnt be war thunder additions since its mostly troop transporters. Switzerland has 1 CV thats its
lol they dont have those either, they all use copy paste leopards or upgrades ones to 2a4 revolution standard.
Switzerlands “good” part is cold war and above planes, even then its highly restricted with only being A2A.
