thats basically a ragebait at that point. Even i dont believe that stupidity.
If the 2A4 is so good
Why is your performance dead average in it?
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While i wouldnt say it needs to go down I do agree that it feels lackluster compared tonthe stuff you face. Although i might just say that as a console player.
But here are the things that bug me on it
First of all for a tank, something thats designed to be shot at in the field of combat since ww1, it cant take any hit at all which confuses me greatly. Why do people call it a good armored tank (i asked that for months in discord and ingame) if it just isnt armored. You cant play it like any other well armored tank you had before it, as in for example the jagdtiger
Your shells, sabot in generall is wonky imo, needs to pixel hunt enemy weakspots while they dont need to do it on you with their apparently way better guns and missiles
Everything from an abrams, merkava to a t80 and arietes outspeeds you at the start of a match, not even to mention light tanks
I got no clue what its manouverability matters for so i cant state any advantages or disadvantages it could bring
Thermals are ok i guess…you can spot an enemy with it still
Its a decentish tank at the end of the day but i could say it needs some help at its battlerating to make it more enjoyable to play
Armour is your final resort
Never rely on it as one of your main forms of protection
holy what a load of propaganda
even hitler wouldnt praise his tiger II this much
Mobility isn’t just about forward speed
Check out T-80 reverse for example
You say that and i do get you somewhere
I just dont think you can play this game without ever getting shot at given thats also the enemies goal to take you out just as it is mine to take out them by shooting them
Hence why i stand still in a position where i can overlook a lot of area and shoot what i can see approach
it basically is unpennable for munitions less penetrative than 3BM42 from a distance, as its turret has great protection. Plus 105s of the most nations with DM33 cant pen its UFP reliably. And sometimes it bounces even 3BM42s. Its a joke at this point
Sure t80s cant drive backyard
But retreating from a battle is not something i think is a good idea to do in any tank given the loss of sight to the enemy along with them getting an advantage over you now
I dont like going back to hangar mid fight either as it feels like i am leaving my team while i could still help them
Then i must be the only one not bouncing these things…
Good reverse is important for surviving, you can retreat into cover to avoid getting shot while you reload
Surely you don’t expect to be able to sit in a hull down position without people ever shooting at your turret do you?
the game is all about shooting weakspots, and the 2a4 has them pretty big. LFP, mask, optics are weaklings, so if you dont “dance” you can easilly be shot.
Dance?
Move around making it harder to aim to weakspots. USSR T-serie tanks are especially bad with it, so their weakspots are even more lethal while being smaller.
I mean aint that how you learn to play till 6.7 easily
Its why i found 8.0 to 9.7 germany downright agony but i pushed through the Torture and it only took like 900 matches to get to 10.7
I am owning the leo 2a5, 2a6 and PL by now but i am afraid of top tier so except like 2 matches i havent even tried that yet. But i am grinding the flakrakrad right now
Hmmmm
I can give that a try i guess
Funny how i play since 2016 and dont do that at all. Must be because i play air rb all the time
As a console player it usually threw my aim off but i guess modern tanks can do it better?
Modern tanks have stabs so its easier to dance. But its also easier to aim for the enemy…
Is it then weird that i still prefer to stand still while fireing/aiming
If i move it gets very wonky with the accuracy. Its Physics lol
But faster reload, slightly faster acceleration, higher reverse speed, better UFP armor, better LFP armor, stronger and smaller mantlet, no optics weakspot in the right cheek, better crew layout, no exposed hull ammunition stowage, less obstructive gun limitation arc, smoke shells, 50. cals and armoured (externally counted) fuel tanks.
The M1 Abrams is simply a better Leopard 2A4, granted, not by much, but it’s still better.
It is not.
It is slower, but not slow.
Like with the M1 Abrams, the T-80B has advantages over the 2A4 as well.
Challenger has better turret armour, faster initial rate of fire, less obstructive gun limitation arc, superior penetration, ESS and smoke shells.
Lmao.
Just like the M1 Abrams, Ariete (P) and Vickers Mk.7.
Just like the M1 Abrams and Vickers Mk.7.
Average cannon. M68 5.3s reload > 2A46M-1 6.0s reload > Rh120 L/44 6.4s reload / L11A5 5.3 - 7.1s reload.
Below average round. L26 > 3BM-42 > DM23 > M774
But gains L26 APFSDS.
Hull is also identical, and the turret armour performance isn’t that massively different in practice.
You strike me as someone who hasn’t played any of these vehicles and is just arguing from a point of complete ignorance. Nothing you’ve stated regarding these vehicles has made any sense.
I would highly advice you inform yourself on the topic by playing these various vehicles before commenting further.
I mean the “2A4 could still be overpowered at 11.3” is dead giveaway
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