Leopard 1 is way too weak at 8.0

Good catch, I was thinking of the TT version but grabbed the wrong vehicles stats.

every 8.0 sucks honestly give them stabs and move them to 8.3

Use a 7.7 lineup (recomendation)

sure, but this is just a result of br compression and it isnt a huge difference either. Ultimately the OF-40 is just a slightly more comfortable leopard 1, not a massive upgrade.

are we for real

Ignoring the fact the Leopard is STABILIZED? Also, I hope you are referring to the 9.0 OF-40 because… the 8.0 OF-40 doesn’t have a stabilizer OR APFSDS

none of these tanks get dm13 dart, the of40 at 8.0 has a dm13 APDS which is nowhere near as good as dm23 apfsds

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this isnt world of tanks

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Yeah but that apdsfs has worse pen then the apds.

No, it doesn’t. it’s also APFSDS so it won’t shatter like APDS and it will do more damage than APDS

Less pen though and heat-fs is pretty good.

What part of “APFSDS has more pen” was confusing for you? APDS has less pen than APFSDS. HEAT is also not as good as APFSDS.

or you could just remove them lowkey its the worst br in tanks

let’s not

Gaijin could simply rename it to Leopard 1A1 and give it a stab. From memory that was the only difference.

Doesnt work for all tanks, also removes the original version for no reason instead of adding a new vehicle

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We don’t need to adjust all tanks. This topic is about improving the Leopard 1.

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The British and French 8.0’s are doing fine.

Read below quote

Are we really pretending like the AMX-30 is not just a french Leo1 in most regards? In fact, it’s worse in some pretty crucial ways. Namely it doesn’t get any kinetic shell at all. Why do you think it’s superior just because french players are better than german players?

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I literally pondered the same thought above.

The heat is also worse

I’m talking about the Leopard A1, which is now often called Leopard 1 A1. That’s the Leopard A1A1 or Leopard 1 A1A1.

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why not the only purpose of 8.0 vehicles such as M60 leo 1 or T54s is to get curbstomped by 8.3s with stabs or curb stomp 7.7-7.0 heavy tank enjoyers

it is honestly getting to that point i can list of tons of things that didnt have stuff IRL in name sake of balance