Leopard 1 is way too weak at 8.0

Are yout rolling right??? precisely the only proof you aported are ALLIES promotions and dont we talk how Gaijin is constant selling russian propaganda over and over again.

It’s completely average.

Trying to reason with german players of that rank 5 lmao… If those tanks were in the french tree. they would be 7.7

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Alright i give up your to far gone

Where???

the D point

leo 1 is fine where it is i think its great sniper fire support tank due to its agility and optics its guns okay to

So no more arguments, thanks for confirm.

would like new camos for germany though

Gaijin balanced Germany instead of giving them undertiered tanks to make up for the players issues with skill.

Both of which have worse guns and more easily exploitable weakspots.

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It is still one of the best 6.7 tanks, but people definitely overrate it.

Ever since it got a ready rack in the turret anything that can pen it from the front kills it instantly is the problem, it’s still got a great gun and solid mobility and such, but it’s barely a heavy tank with no protection from the side and 185mm from the front.

Undertiered tanks??? most of the tanks stayed aroud 55% win ratio, similar to his other nations counteparts. Right now practically the entire TT is aroud 40% and 30% win ratios. The BRs changes was a stupid and unecesary nerf.

Excuse me what??? KV-1 zis 5 and the new finnish KV are by far better than Jagdpanzer 4.



Itd be better to check these stats in another month or so after the nerf to the KV-1A goes through. Gaijin has already shown histroical armor values mean nothing since the KV-1A has weaker armor than it should but i may just be to keep it in a BR where its somewhat effective considering the consistent downtiers 4.7 brings. Id suggest comparing the Jagdpanzer to any similar TD’s since they match class or some mid heavy tank.

More like 170mm ish. Idk what they did to the 2H but last time.i checked volumetric makes the armor only about 170, considering m82 from a US 90mm originally couldn’t pen the turret and in the past year can.

Winrates do not determine how good tanks are.

The good old fast exit LOL.

USA have bad win ratios: bad lienups, nerfs, see more powerfull enemies.
Soviets have bad win ratios : bad lienups, nerfs, see more powerfull enemies.
Germany have bad win ratios : bad players.

I haven’t touched it in a while, it always used to be 185mm… which wasn’t a whole lot to begin with but it helped sometimes, would suck if its 170 now.

People say the exact same thing about top tier US players too.

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And more than probably the are wrong too.
There are tons of factors can affect the vehicles perform. Things like lineups, BRs, nerfs, maps desing or even the MM. But for the haters of certain nations is more easy just said “skill issue, bad players”.

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