Just because the tanks are good doesn’t mean the players are either.
Atleast in RB the panthers/jagdpanther stayed undertiered for way too long, the jagdpanzer IV still is undertiered, yet German teams continue to be subpar.
This is not a player problem only, before Gaijin destroyed Germany in the last BR changes most of the tanks stayed in normal win ratios.
Whaaaat??? in 4.7 you can find monster like KV-1 zis5 or T14. Jagdpanzer IV is just fine.
BS. Just compare how Germany stayed before the crap BR and map changes.
It murdered 6.3-6.7s
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It can get one shot by anything at those BRs, there is no reason it would you dominate, it’s basically an M18.
an M18 with a 105mm with HEATFS and APDS
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Don’t forget the amazing optics and rangefinder.
Do people just forget those things whenever convenient? Leopard 1s bully the majority of other snipers without LRF or APFSDS.
Yep
Heatfs is garbage and APDS was horrible for the majority of it’s lifespan, it used to be an extremely miserable experience that made by stop playing the game for probably a year as every tree had this APDS garbage which was even worse than APCR.
i’m more worried about stabilized British vehicles with lolpen APDS and that are stabilized and that have more armor.
Didn’t seem so horrible when it was able to one shot disable all the WW2 mediums/heavies it used to face
Not back in the day, it was shooting pebbles.
And one shotting is pretty trivial in most things unfortunately, Tiger lls especially.
Its true that german vehicles tend to be over-BRed. Additionally most maps are favoring brawling tanks. Glasscannon snipers like the Leopard 1 don’t work well on most map types. It also has to be said that there are also alot better sniping tanks around 8.0 (stabilized, thermals, LRF + autoranging guns). Best example is the Vidar, which gets spammed like mad. Leopards 1 are just always much weaker than main competition, even in long range engagements.
Like? Talking about ground
Not one shot kill, but one shot disable. Enemy cant fight back
People just have this weird perception of the Leopard because it’s German, it’s hardly a vehicle to worry about and never performed well.
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Probably because german players suck coming off of King Tigers and can’t fathom a vehicle that isnt W key point and click
Alot small city maps + spam of high pen autocannon vehicles do this to Leopard teams. They can brrrp them from any direction.
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Dont waste your time with USA fanboys.
Probably because it’s just not that good, just like the Tiger isn’t that good but people keep pretending it’s OP.
Tiger ll isn’t special either in having a powerful round, it also gets easily one shot all the time.
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Gaijin promotes Germany to new player and not other nations so there is a higher % of new player that play germany
Just wrong. Tiger isnt OP but its certainly a good vehicle
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