Leopard 1 is way too weak at 8.0

I do get how the Leopard is a sniper (as i got a few great sniping games with it), but my main complaint on the Leo is surrounded by vehicles with way better specs, which with gaijin’s horrible map design, makes it impossible to play.

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Germany mains will find anything to cry about there tanks

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Im just stating a fact. Besides from mobility, the Leo 1 has not much else to offer. It has no armor, and when in a fight against something like a T55, there is basically no way you can use the advantage of your 105 against it due to the lack of a gun stabilizer, with gaijin also making so many COD style urban maps, making it impossible to survive an encounter while moving (most), especially when you are cruising at high speeds and an enemy tank peeks you. Even simple autocannons can ruin your day. Also, the same problem not only applies to the Leo 1, but also the AMX 30 and OF-40

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Besides the AMX30, and OF-40, the other 8.0 MBTs, T55, Centurion MK10, and M60 all have something to them that removes the Leo 1/AMX30 problem. Both the T55 and Centurion MK10 having stabilizers and decent armor, and the M60 having at least some armor that allows it to return fire instead of instantly dying

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I’m sure you think of TO-55 because normal T-55 is at 8.3.

All that armor disappears when they’re being shot by common MBT rounds at that BR. Centurion Mk10 has crippling mobility, so you’re probably going to be last to the party, engaging someone that’s already there and waiting for you.
Same thing goes for M60 armor wise and it lacks stabilizer as well.

*their

What i’ve seen is that with the leo just out maneuver your opponent, the T-55/54 has horrid depression (basically all soviet tanks lol) what you can do is hit them when they crest a hill when their gun cannot shoot at you. or just go speed mode and hold w and outflank opponents. That works for my friends at least. Also the T-54 and 55 have mediocre traverse rates so just dance circles around them probably be fine. (not) the leo is decent but yeah the armor is not the priority here. The leopard is suited to a fast paced fight and where it can use the terrain to its advantage. (Please tell me if i made a mistake with grammar or spelling, this is all translated from my native language to english.

You got the wrong guy there.

Maybe if Germany start receiving anti no skill BRs like russians they dont need cry anymore :)

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The real reason why they litterly have a skill issue is that gaijin in every promotional video of war thunder the rewards were German vehicles, so basicly making all people that joined war thunder by that methode be Germany mains

What???

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Gaijin sponsors a video, the Youtber says “Play war thunder with the link below” , in the sponsorships the offer you a link do download war thunder while getting some days of premium, and a lease/rent (i don’t remember what it’s called) of Tiger I and the panther/panzer IV

Panzer 3N and i think the Stuh

They never offered something like that.

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Does this stike you the PDST?

And how a WT mobile promotion with US vehicles is related to this:

???

Wut??

Germany’s no skill BRs are 5.3 and 6.0. Maybe 4.3 too depending on what you are playing.

You clearly havent seen many youtubers promotion to war thunder, Also i said PTSD because of the INSANE amount of war thunder sponsoships, from P*rn stars too Terrorists.

Practially all germans vehicles between those BRs are under 50% win ratio meanwhile USA for example are over 60%. I suggest you check the game again.
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Again, how is this related to Germany the main topic???

Just because the tanks are good doesn’t mean the players are either.

Atleast in RB the panthers/jagdpanther stayed undertiered for way too long, the jagdpanzer IV still is undertiered, yet German teams continue to be subpar.