Leopard 1 is way too weak at 8.0

Really, thanks to its speed and cannon, it is still quite competent against what it faces, but like most of the other Br 8.0s, it has the problem that they are in a transitional Br, starting with Br 8.3 and almost all vehicles. They have stabilizer and APDS-FS, so you die more and kill less than usual, but it still works decently well.
I have said it many times, the game needs to improve the bullet damage and improve the penetration calculator, also review the tanks there are, look at what date they went into production and what ammunition they used at that time, and then rebalance all of them. tanks within their possibilities, separating tanks from different periods and filling those gaps with more intermediate tanks, for example removing the APDS and HEAT-FS from the T-54, adding in Br 8.0 the T-54A with only the HEAT- FS and then the T-55A.

The same thing happens to the M48, all tanks that have a vertical ammunition basket in front of the magazine should have a fairly fast RoF.

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Also with loader space the size of a bathtub :)

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After people discovered the sekrit code that prevented them from doing that.

Strv used to be much better than Leopard 1 but now suffers at 8.0.

Before Strv 103 was uptiered it practically was a Stug and could be played as aggressively as Jagdpanther. At 8.0 it is a less efficient vehicle that get’s ruined by improved higher calibre apds and even apfsds.

The French auto loaders are even worse off than Leopard 1.

Leopard 1 used to be a lovely, rather mobile sniper but with the maps we got these days it’s in a rough spot.

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Here we have a very well preserved example of someone who never played the Leopard I or its upgrades but speaks as if it did.
a) The HEAT-FS is garbage. Never use it. Use APDS. Oh wait, what’s that, there is a fast tank with basically the same gun that’s stable and a faster reload? What’s that, the brits don’t count? Ok.
b) Mobility is nothing special. I have played all Leopard Is except the Swedish one. They’re not that mobile.
c) If you think the lack of stabilizer is not that bad, I suggest you start playing the brits.

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Wait until Leo 1 users learn about the AMX-30 xD

Haha, I imagine what it will be like, knowing that it is like the leopard but with only HEAT it has to be suffering.

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but a worse heat at the same time

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Imagine trying to use Thunderskill as a reputable source

Statistically speaking, it actually is a fairly reputable source. The only big thing that isn’t reputable is the fact that you have to KNOW about Thunderskill to use it, so it isn’t 100% random survey. Other than that, it fulfills all rules of being a reputable source. So.

People have proved multiple times on the here that it is not accurate and easy to tamper with since the number of players that it tiny compared to the entire playerbase. Tiny in general, actually. It sits at around 10k-20k users “registered”

Imaging refuting the results of thousands of matches without proper reasoning only to resort to anecdotal evidence.

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It is not a hard concept to imagine that TS is flawed due to extremely low participation numbers relevant to the playerbase.

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My guy I’m not gonna bookmark some arbitrary topic just to have the information on hand. I remember one of the clear cases that I’ve seen demonstrated was the winrate of the german 2A4 being easily tampered with. Someone on here got in a squad with his buddies and inflated the win rate for it by 20% overnight.

extremely low participation numbers

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the german 2A4 being easily tampered

The 2A4 has thousands of matches listed, you can play like 4 games an hour.

Hi! This is false as shown in the posts above. Plus, registered users does not include the non-logged in accounts that update their stats or other players stats. Therefore, it is reasonably random and valid, logical evidence.

Also, from a technical standpoint, it’s very difficult to tamper with stats. You can’t go on the website and create false info- therefore, any stats the website is receiving are real, in game stats. So if you tamper with the TS stats, you tamper with in game stats, which inherently makes it not tampering.

Some Italian players also managed to influence the official stats by getting the CL-13 Mk.4 on the list for uptiers despite being one of the absolute worst Sabres in the game

Thunderskill is a data sample and it’s perfectly reasonable to use

T-54s are too weak at 8.0, especially with that ridiculous hand cracked WW1 turret rotation speed