Marder1A3 or DF105 will be your first spawn (or the rocket buggy), then Leopard if you’re a boring person, then you have BMP1, and of course the Wiesel up-tiers just fine to 8.0. It’s actually one of Germany’s better line-ups, because you get strong support vehicles and not just an MBT sausage fest. OP is wrong, the Leopard 1 is not weak at 8.0 - it’s just a boring tank, though. That’s why I never use it. If I use 8.0 it is specifically to spam some rockets in the Raketenautomat or some IFV action. The only real downside of a Leopard at 8.0 Germany is that the beloved Gepard is at 8.3.
Only reason why I find it boring is because it is a good meta vehicle. It’s a safe option that teaches players some good habits for later BR - the first being that you should never rely on your armor in anything. I have always preferred the APDS in it over the HEAT-FS, but I think a lot of people use the HEAT-FS, maybe that’s why they don’t like it. Either way - a line-up, to me, is any effective combination of vehicles at a BR range that promotes people to stick around in battle and not be a one-death-leaver.
Idk if that would be entirely true. For some sure, but in my case, I haven’t played tanks under like 6.0, and only wanted the top tier ones and I’d consider myself a “Germain Main”
I bought the A1A1-L/44 and grinded that for the whole tree :D
Gepard carried the lineup for me, I’ve clutched games in that thing, even managed to spawn a nuke after uptier decimated both my leo and marder and i had no sp left
I build lineups around the Gepard, Falcon, etc. For example, my Britain 8.3 lineup is Falcon (usually always first spawn), Warrior, ZA-35, Vickers Mk.3, Striker, Swingfire, with Vampire and Swift F.1 for air. Line-ups built around autocannon spammers are some of my favorite in the entire game. For Germany, if you’ve grabbed the Turm III (highly recommended - grab it during a sale when it’s 50% off), it is a wonderful combo one-two combo with the gepard. I’m not a very big M48/M60 person, but the M48A2 is also fine at 8.3, for some line-up depth (and leopard 1 will still work at 8.3, especially with the apds).
Why are you even relying on its armour? It was never designed to withstand punishment. You should be playing like a light tank or a fast tank destroyer like the Hellcat.
Because half the time, maps are small urban maps and similar tanks have similar firepower and more armor (Centurion mk10 cough cough) and mobility isnt even useful in urban maps when by the time your gun stabalized, you are already dead
They are maps where the you fight tanks at 100-200m. Often times you can disable a tank, then drive right next to it to shoot it in the sides.
Those are FPS maps to me, not maps for vehicle combat.