Leo 2a7v and 122b+

more like skill issue the reason US lost to much it because of horde of click bait really nothing more

Continue spammimg such blocks of texts without constructive thought, im sure you will win people over to your side.

Until then

Just get better at the game.

calls skill issue

Your general stats are also dead giveaway that you cant or you struggle to reach positive K/D and you have 49% global winrate.

My guess is that you sit at 0.8 K/D in most of your tanks, namely Abrams variants?

And your stats are giveaway that you are german main? So insted of saying “Get better at the game” look at your own stats. 50% ish wr in leo A5 and A6. Here comes Leo A7 with 70% wr?
So you have learned how to play out of nowhere or this tank is busted?

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It is not busted, thats what stuff like gen 3 thermals can do, besides that a lot of people came back to the german tree because of the leo including the veterans which raises the winrate, couple that with the p2w 11.3 US clickbait and the challenger one, and you have the reason for an increased winrate. 1 Death lvl 5 noobs

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Yet, you are another german main that did not even tried to play other TT.
STRVs do not have gen 3 thermals and are still busted, all you do is protecting your new toy without perspective.

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The issue isn’t the Leopard 2A7V is too strong its that everything else is too weak

And if you look at my stats the highest vehicle i have in the German tech tree is the tiger

Im a British main

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What having an actually good (i.e properly modelled) damage model does to a mf (2A7V doesn’t have that).

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Looking at my stats you can see that im what you would call an average player ;) and looking at OP stats you can tell hes below average.

Difference is im not making unhinged alex jones tier rant about not wanting to hear anything about not nerfing the 2A7 nor i am claiming that Flakrad is best top tier SPAA, unlike OP.

2A7 does not bring anything new that cant be found on 2A6 in terms of firepower or Strv122s in terms of armor, and these things are in the gane for what, three years?

If me, an average player, can figure out how to play T-80UK against Sweden str122s, OP can figure out either how to properly fix abrams or how to git gud.

The fact yall are still arguing here is pretty funny tbh

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What 2A7 brings is armor so you are not limited to only play hulldown, same for STRV’s nothing new? Spall liners, so even if you catch the side of them you are not 100% sure if you can kill them

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So like BVMs with their wunderwaffenn tier relikt bags? ;)

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Yes BVM is busted and should be fixed, but in the same way it is also limited way more than STRV’s or Leos

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Just aim for ammo lmao

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2A7V:

pen_map

2A5:

(the green on the 2A5s upper plate is misleading, since it’s a ricochet area, unlike on the 2A7V)

Basically, you trade very good hull down protection with few weakpoints (2A6), for a somewhat effective beak protection (2A7V) but with a significantly higher amount of armour holes/artificial weakpoints. Yes, you’ve heard it right, 2A7V is actually worse hull down than the 2A6 & 2A5.

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What was the usual retort for the past three years whenever someone said that BVMs are busted?

I believe it was along the lines of just flank bro and russian mains are just better, its all skill

Lower plate pen kills only a driver, you cant shoot upper plate like in the leo a4/a5/a6 and get turret crew in Leo A7

Then OP should present argument backed with facts, not alex jones ramblings.

Gaijin update step by step
1: add strong vehicle
2: check if its Russian
3: nerf it if it isn’t

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