I love the fact that this thread turned into Swedish mains coping
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Yea i wish us swedish players would just admit the strv-122b+ is the best tank in the game
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Better than leopard, as for the gun, that’s why they are working on a FCS, Engine, and optic upgrade on the Strv 123, which should deliver from 2026-2028. As for the whole selling bit, it’s mostly because countries want to upgrade it to their needs.
Oh, you mean the ones made for the PLSS commander sight that shouldn’t have commander override?
No, not particularly, I’m talking about zoom and FOV.
like i said, sweden is done for, they are staying behind in technology by quite a few years, Germany is driving around with 2A8s which are superior in every sense while sweden is running around with left overs
Those two things are equally the same in game, while for the PLSS, the commander override would be lost if it would be implemented correctly, but nobody reported it, yet.
As for now, yes, but also, the next upgrade, and their main threat, being Russia, is not looking too hot, so they don’t feel as if they need upgrade or engineer their own vehicles.
because they wont, they already shown intrest in the mgcs /german corporation. They might make good IFVS, but know nothing about mbt design and prefer to just modify the basics of existing tanks, nothing they did was extensive and only switching parts or taking already german exisiting options
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I wouldn’t call the STRV 103 a bad MBT, but yeah, seeing as how Strv 2k failed miserably.
This,
Also to be fair its not like they need to make something different, Leopards are great.
Anyway lets stay relevant to what is present in game.
In fact, the 2A7V should wipe the ground with the 122’s, but currently it does not because Gaijin doesn’t think so.
And? More armor for barely any mobility change? Guess so.
Than the 2A5? Yea. Than the 2A7V? Only in Gaijin’s wildest dreams.
It is produced, in Sweden, by Swedish workers.
That’s funny, last I checked only about 3/4s were actually built in Sweden, and only a half of them actually assembled by Swedish companies.
It is a Swedish licensed reproduction of the Leopard 2A5, with Swedish produced ammo.
The ammunition is a licensed Israeli APFSDS that’s inferior to DM53 (because Sweden couldn’t afford that).
Edit: oh yeah, better optics too
The only difference was the day optic having an additional setting. Nowdays Strv 122 has been left in the dust, but alright… keep the cope coming.
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Lets not forget about the fact the 122B PLSS shouldn’t be able to use commander override at all.
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Ignoring the fact that the M111, DM23, and Slpprj m/80 are the exact same thing. Idk tho, just whatever you think IG.
might have sth to do with us not calling it an MBT at all, its a tank destroyer at best
What do those 3 have in common with Strv 122 or BW’s Leo 2s, if you’d be so inclined to explain.
The cope is getting unreal
M111 is the original dart, I’ll just keep it as an example right now. The DM23 is just a licensed repro. of M111, and so is the Slpprj m/80.
As for Slpprj M/90, the reason it “underproforms” is because of modifications. I don’t understand your point. If you could explain what shell the Slpprj m/90 is based on, I could tell you.
and that relates to the swedes not having DM53 how?
Again, what do those three have in common with the Strv 122 or German Leopard 2s. They can’t even be fired by those without undergoing a calibre conversion, so to me it seems like an attempt at changing the goalpost.