Leo 2a7v and 122b+

Historical accuracy < gameplay balance.
You want historical stuff? Fine lets add F-22 and Patriot to the US and let everyone suck them off with US real missiles, planes and ammo from that era

i dont want that, its me “joking” about the giant amount of crying russians are doing, obviously DM73 even propably DM63 arent balanced for the game currently

btw, we talking about ground here, not sure how those would help u in grb but sureeeeee

Funnily enough DM73 wouldn’t change much, neither DM63 will. But if any it will open possibilities to some nations to get something better ( SHARD ) since they will never add such stuff first if there isn’t a precedence ( M829A3 and DM73 )

well, their main benefit is no more explosions when the ammo gets hit. It increases the surviveability so many are complaining about even further. DM73 isnt that much of a penetration increase realy

that is true, Shard performs similar to DM73

wasnt the main reason for that one them saying it wouldnt change much?, gajin needs to add the anti era tips for that one (same for german rounds)

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This is why I want SHARD for all 120s.
Lower chamber pressures than DM53, higher performance.
Realistic balance.
And of course you can have domestic flavors like M829A3.

Just anti ERA for DM53 and make them goes crazy overnight you don’t need to jump to DM73

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The funniest thing is that DM53 is actually underperforming quite heavily.

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In fact, its true. The only real change for them would be the fact they could pen the 2A7V only UFP, and maybe the T80U/90A UFP, but it wouldn’t do enough for Relikt.

So in fact the only person that would be screwed by thins change would be the 2A7V, because Gaijin thinks in 25 years no improvements where made or, even better, it got worse lmao.

dont know about the performance about the A3,
But about penning the UFP of the 2A7V, thats actualy an acknowledged part of a bug report, where the damage model is busted, its not working right and underperforming because armor models are overlapping and makes them not register /interact with each other right. * Our newest reports proofing Strv122B and 2A7V having the at least exact same internal and add on armor. So hopefuly that gets fixed as well.

So as a metric A3 would need to penetrate Strv122

Working as intendeed, though, why its taking them so long to change this and make it on par with the 122 for the moment atleast?

gajin and bug reports in general, and it needing model rework etc,
other problems of the 2a7v include the damage model of the turret ring being to high, the ring protector armor piece on the chassis damage model being non existent and more and more

cuz they want to make a new model instead of re using the one on the strv122 prob they want a more accurate model

I mean, leopard is superior German engineering. And then Sweden comes and Surpasses German engineering, who cares if it’s the meta, you just gotta know how to combat it.

  • Buys basically a complete Leopard 2 TVM max package
  • puts MEXAS-H on it
  • “guys look, we so good”

/s

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You’re clearly wrong, since the tank was touched by Sweden engineers it gains 50% more armor values. /s

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its like that joke we said time ago if they added the irish tech tree to war thunder
bonus skill for being irish: drunk your crew performance dosent get affected by damage due to it being extremely drunk

Well we have to keep in mind that both the Leopard 2A7 and Strv 122+ are the newest tanks in their series and were crafted to be as such. That is not to say that they are not powerful in their respects they were crafted to be amazing MBT’s and their cannon is very powerful. Instead of changing the leopards I believe that it would be better of Gaijin fixed the Abrams series of tanks. adding the correct Armour and actually modeling the depleted uranium rounds would go a long way to evening the battlefield for american players.

Also understand that Germany’s only good thing that they have for ground battles are the leopard series. The flack bus is horrible and isn’t modeled correctly and the puma should be able to pen the sides of tanks yet half the time the shots don’t get modeled. And Germany has no good CAS aircraft and the eurocopter leaves a lot to be desired

oh no questions asked, the abrams is in a horrible spot and we dont say either that the 2a7v is bad.
just for german players its very annoying that the strv122 still are the best leopards in the game which just isnt true anymore. We only want the 2a7v fixed to have the same armor as the strv122 and lose the moniker that sweden is the better germany

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The abrams is not in a bad spot, the issue here is the massive skill issue of US Mains.

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