Since when is RU a minor nation?
Read again please.
Win rate says otherwise
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im so glad that gaijin is actually working on making better damage models as of rn after the fiasco with the abrams and leopard and the challenger so yeah lets see how this goes
WHat?!
too much low level premiums dragging it out i like the US but its unbearable playing with the US as of rn when you get jumped by 5 enemies and your teammates are just there staring like
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Just because US players at top tier consist of lvl 0 Click-Bait spammers doesn’t mean their tanks are one of the worst in the game.
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yeah i was playing the M1A1 AIM and jesus the ammount of clickbaits going to the same spot getting killed by 1 type 10 and 6 kills all of them in the first minute of the match all by 1 type 10 and 6 clickbaits
Combining US with Germans or RU in a Squad helps filter those out a bit
The horror of comparing MBTs of different nations instead of arguing on some arbitrary point that you see as OP.
Im well aware what you said. Im well aware thats nonsense too. Bar spall liner which gets destroyed by one shot and only stops spall, not the sabot itself, 2A7 is as susceptible to post-pen dmg as any other tank, coming from someone who plays them.
I keep comparing 2A7 to BVM or more specifically the relikt bags on its sides as they serve the same purpose as spall liner, ie. allowing the tank to survive a side shot, with difference being that Relikt bags stop the round entirely.
Yeah those bags ARE a bit too much… UFP I can understand that but a Relikt afaik should reduce KE rounds pen power not destroy it completely. Same with chemical rounds
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around 20 to 30% at best still find too many of them, and my main reason to play japan as of rn
I watched both dev-streams and nobody said that. In dev-blogs nothing too. It may be true ofc, but there isn’t a single piece of evidence so it’s only a theory. But spall liners shouldn’t be added at all.
No, you just don’t know all his problems. As the simplest example his fuel tanks explode, even though they shouldn’t.
Too bad at tournaments and top squadron battles everyone rides leopards and not bvm. Your or my personal preferences say nothing about the effectiveness of the tank.
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US always suffered from that unfortunately and that makes otherwise a really good line of tanks and aircrafts being a pure pain train to grind through…
the US is not bad its just that it suffers from the bad teammate syndrome the 5 sec reload really helps with the enemies rushing and your teammates doing nothing but even so its still the bad teammate syndrome
Sooooo if the BVM had a feature similiar to spall liner, ie. one hit protection in a place where the feature is located,
And it had that feature since red skies were added and no one (bar other relikt bags equipped tanks) had similiar feature
You cant really say that 2A7 is worse than BVM because muh spall liner.
They only showcased them on the T-90M and didnt say a word about them comming for other tanks like challenger, leopards, bradleys etc. That was enough said
The bug report website has way more reports for the 2A7V, the biggest problem of the T-90M is all ammo burning when the ammo rack in the back gets shoot. That can be solved by just not filling it.
And every fuel has the chance to explode, in the same sense you could say germany should get DM63, just so their ammo doesnt explode
eh thats purely because the mobility is more important in small team matches then the armor
well im dipping out of this thread for now cuz this is heading a bad direction, also БрИт4нСкUй_П0дС0С think what you are gonna say before saying it cuz you are putting really bad arguments to fight back
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Well then you need to define downside and even then you need to judge if the downside is relevant in the first place.
T-90M and T-80BVM have commanders 12.7mm HMG, 2A7 has only 7.62mm. See? downside! Not relevant, but a downside nonetheless.
And tournaments and top squadron battles are played like ordinary matches? Because afaik they are not and thus what tank is considered good for pro scene is kinda irrelevant because they want different things from them tha ordinary players.
Playing hull down specifically with leopard 2A7 is most of the times a bad idea, because your turret ring, unlike the one of all other leopards in game, is modeled wrongly (it sits higher just like the entire turret, and that area is not volumetric either), so sitting down with a whole hole open for full spalling after a penetration, resulting often in ohk even on an ace crew, is not a good idea at all.
If you really want to kill leopard 2A7 easily, shoot it under the gun, and if you cannot do that because he turned his turret around, shoot the gaps between the turret and the hull (the turret is higher, remember?), or shoot the ufp if you are close enough in any tank that is not a russian one (they are not as tall to look over the previously mentioned ufp).
The spall liners are an advantage, but you can bypass that by placing the shot right under the turret : if that was not enough for you, if the 2A7 is sitting still, you can literally shoot its elevated turret ring from the side as well.
The tank is bugged, not unplayable, but it’s literally NOT as good as strv 122 right now.
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