Uh, yeah. I played at the time with super competitive nerds, and they always prefered the Ka-52 over the UHT.
It’s word against word, and obviously you’ll never agree lol.
FYI, it needing “LoS” didn’t matter, they just spammed Vikhrs until enough SPAA’s spawned to overwhelm the Vikhr spam.
And KHT “nuking lobbies” never happened in the same capacity. People didn’t forget it either, but they are, unlike you apparently, aware that a past wrong doesn’t make the present right.
Germany had both the best heli and spaa
Not really, Ka-52 was by far the most powerful.
The flakrakpaz bus thing was the only good SPAA back then too.
Lol, lmao. The Chunguska with the M1 mod was good enough to deal with basically anything until the SACLOS nerfs and LGB/over the radar level bombing became meta.
Using them as mobile indirect fire platforms isn’t a bad idea when ground platforms are quickly identified and attacked. They can possibly service larger areas too.
I would think IRL people care more about not getting hit by random rockets than in war thunder where you can drive through them or repair your disabled vehicle in less than a minute.
Back to on topic, I think just giving LDIRCMs heat would mostly fix this issue.
Make them function like jet’s oil/engines too hot and it damages the module.
The only issue then is how easily helis can repair/rearm at a helipad. That’s been a long standing issue since the F&F missiles came out.
This method is not used only on helicopters. It allows the commander to report successful combat performance to his superiors without putting helicopters at risk, because losing a helicopter could cost him his career.
Full agree. Not that it matters anymore a lot nowaday what exactly was better at what point of the game. Depending on maps and 100s of other factors. I mained helis long enough to know the ins and outs of how they perform vs ground targets, vs spaa, vs other helis and vs fast movers.
Yes, on some maps UHT was oppressive, as much as on some maps KA52 was oppressive.
Heli pvp ec wasnt taken down due to UHT spam. (But maybe would have if there was a premium version without thermals for the german tech tree, who knows)
UHT literally cant defend vs jets, let alone ww2 props coming for it given that the pilot is not completely lobotomized flying at you in a straight line or even worse misses his attack run flying away in a straight line. UHTs viability drops significantly on the urban maps where targets are behind cover most of the times or move between cover/smoke or dead tanks. (as does the KA52 tbf, but with vikhrs and its laserbeam gun it still poses a threat to other helis at long ranges and jets flying careless)
Which actually is the PARS main downside. You know a uht is up, sit like 20 m or less next to a dead tank and youre invincible for him. Once theres a couple of destroyed spaas or tanks in spawn youre completely safe. The PARS will alwas go for the dead tank instead of the alive one. Thats not a problem for the KA52. That is (and was even more before the guidance nerfs) still a huge threat to other helis and jets no matter how unsuitable the ground map may be.
Is there a point in comparing those two? IMO not really, both have clear advantages over the other but especially at the point of time where you could just ripple fire vikhrs at saclos spaa and then play the minigame of proxy fuze incoming missiles while 4 vikhrs still continue on target or even worse, fire vikhrs and then proxy fuze incoming stuff with dumb rockets the KA52 was just blatantly broken. Especially since decently aimed vikhrs were one shot kills on anything and could track and pull enough to hit jets going mach at a 90° angle.
yeah ide love to know what lobbies you played because I have played WT since ground CBT days and never once have I seen UHT nuke lobbies, PARS basically often required 2+ launches to guarantee a kill, the trajectory is actually one of the flattest launched F&F (its literally almost flat when it hits targets) and often doesnt do damage because its hitting ERA 90% of the time.
But hey I guess you dont want to talk about how KA50s ruined Heli EC for 4 years with Vikhrs having a multi purpose fuse and no other heli had a missile to match its speed or range, because there is no defending that bs when that came out or the fact Vikhrs use to proxy on SAM missiles and could easily overwhelm SAMs as a result.
there is a nice reddit post for ya on the KA50 comments and vikhr missile comments so dont sit there and claim russia get it bad lmfao or somehow they have gimped systems (they do) just in there favour
Your just lying at this point with statements like that because youtube exists and im sorry to burst your bubble but the majority here who have played WT will know the state it was in years ago and still is today and it still begins with an R