Last stand of Air Realistic Battles

They did actually test air RB EC several years ago, but top tier has changed so much since then that it’s worth trying once more.

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this is more of an mid air rearm point, bomber would actually help you win by ,geez idk, destroying more than 2 bases on average by bombing run and even stop those bomber manhunts because a bomber will be incentivized to stay in the map and at a certain alt to keep bombing.

that was actually in the game like 6 years ago, I remember flying the fw200 to a big flouting yellow circle and getting my bombs reloaded without having to land, I think it was on the old English channel map.

and it allowed you to help your team further, instead of being a blind hunt target

The pathetic manipulation starts from the very beginning. So primitive, but at the same time true, the author knows how to speak and manipulate the mass, which is immediately visible to a thinking person.

Once again this game finds itself in a bad spot like it was not so long ago.

What is the situation of the game? Everything is fine at the moment, the game feels and plays better than in recent years, especially in ARB, where several changes have completely improved the feel of the game. Are you referring to the last riot? If all the requirements had been met, the game would have died in 1-2 months, and it’s good that the developers are smarter than the majority of the “dissatisfied” (most of whom do not play the game).

Multiple major issues plague this game, technical or otherwise.

Manipulation again - what kind of problems? Name it. Yes, there are bugs with the radar, this is one bug and it is not so critical at the moment. All? Fine. The obvious manipulation is that the author talks about a lot, without naming even one example, but simply translating the text into emotion. Remember, if the text puts pressure on emotions, if there are many common phrases in the text, it means they are trying to manipulate you, this is the basis of rhetoric.

From low RP/SL gains - it’s absolutely crazy to claim that at the moment someone who plays average/well has some kind of earnings problem in the game. For $30, you can buy a premium for a YEAR and forget about the money ALTOGETHER, because you WILL NOT go into a negative YEAR.

Degradation of the Battle Pass, insane copy paste filled updates that also break the game while not bringing anything new, rank 3 copy paste event vehicles requiring 350K mission score to get

The degradation of the battle pass and other things - give me an example, for example, I don’t see it. A lot of decent high-ranking unique equipment.

numerous bugs that have not been fixed for years

Give an example, why do you speak in general phrases? Personally, according to my reports, I fixed more than 70% of the bugs.

The game is not in a healthy state.

Why? In my opinion, the game is currently experiencing its best time.

I am however not going to focus on most of these issues in this thread.

Of course, then why did you make this emotional introduction? I’ll tell you why - you immediately find exactly the audience that agrees with you that everything is bad in the game, in fact, you create an emotionally biased filter, at the level when the news first tells about the life of a criminal, so that people begin to sympathize with him, only in this case, on the contrary, you complain in general about everything without giving any examples, and then say - but that’s not the main thing. No, no, this is a direct manipulation of emotions, and it is quite direct.

What we have in War Thunder would barely pass as a proof of concept for a beta.

This is absolutely crazy, by the way, why? Explain why this is a beta? Why not alpha…? Why not the demo version? Why beta? Oh, yes, that’s the general phrase again.

Don’t believe me? Take a look at Counter Strike.

It’s just a laugh - CS community:We are not happy with a lot of things.

What is the point of modeling all these vehicles, systems and complex interactions if the main environment you get to use them in is basically one spawn deathmatch.

Because that’s the essence of the game - a fast session, which is why online is so high. Whether you want it or not, like it or not, that’s the way it is.

Let’s just say that such a terrible beginning of the topic simply cannot inspire confidence in me. It’s just too direct manipulation aimed at people who don’t think, but are guided by emotions. It’s a nightmare.

This is definitely not what you show in your trailers or what people expect from a “realistic” game.

And what do they expect? Have you already decided for us? Tell us what they expect and expect.

This is definitely not what you show in your trailers or what people expect from a “realistic” game. You timed the release of the F-14 to coincide with the new Top Gun movie

I’d rather fly 2 hours to ARB than watch the latest top gun, if anything. But you’ve already decided that I like top gun, but I don’t like the game, right? Funny.

Based on suggestions… Where are the offers? :)
You just say: do it well. How? I don’t know, do it well.

This is your last chance. Do right by us.

what??? ONLINE IS HIGHER THAN EVER! What are you talking about?! Just about what?? The game is at its best right now - simple leveling, cool mechanics, new planes, improved mechanics.

Terrible manipulation and threat.

By the way, why are you reinforcing YOUR theme with other themes? :) That’s not how it works.

You’ve just assembled a bingo of a disgruntled person who doesn’t think, but just viciously threatens everyone by being unhappy. You speak in patterns, phrases, always the same thing.

By the way, it’s funny that you have the most battles on the assault and… su-25k, hmm… Is it funny?

You can talk for a long time, analyzing your every thesis for hours, but it’s funny, it’s just funny how easy it is to manipulate the masses.

By the way, judging by the avatar and the new equipment you bought… They didn’t go anywhere or do anything, but immediately bought all the anime tanks. Ironically, by the way, this is a vivid example of a person who most of all persuades others not to play, sets ultimatums.

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what

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Sat down and made us read the whole script of macbeth holy

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The fact that they admit to being manipulated is… well… Well done? Only manipulation remains manipulation.

From 7 to today, this person has played 900 games, for a second, which is slightly inconsistent with the fact that he no longer plays (his last activity was on December 18).

And yes, I remind you that nothing has been answered in the case, and the whole article is pressure on emotions without a whole idea, just with the premise that everything is bad and everyone sees it (except for him and individual people, no one sees it).

For example, I have my own community of 16,000 people, and you know what? Judging by my surveys among my friends and subscribers, everyone is happy about the game and everyone sees improvements. But I did not give this as an example because this is a biased sample.

And yes, “do you want to do better?” surveys don’t mean anything because they don’t carry any ideas.

epic fib

Is this meant to imply that the surveys here are biased? On a forum where anyone is free to give their input on whether or not they would like to see certain things implemented

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epic fib

I’m a YouTuber lol

Is this meant to imply that the surveys here are based? On a forum there anyone is free to give their input on whether or not they would like to see certain things implemented

They are not biased, they are useless. Completely. Something on the level of “Do you want everyone to live in peace?” But when you ask such a person how? What for? Why? You start naming problems with his idea, so immediately, “well, I do not know, well, just do it better, come up with it yourself.” Roughly speaking, this is an absolutely empty statement about nothing.
Do you want a lot of money?
Yes.
Earn it.
And how?
Not my problem.

?? :)

So what makes your community more relevant on opinions and surveys than the ones on this post?

That’s the point - it doesn’t. I point out manipulation because the author of the post is the first to raise his opinion, saying that many people support him, although this does not change anything, does not increase the significance of his argument. I am pointing out exactly this, that I have exactly the same number of people from the opposite camp, which means that appealing to people’s opinions is not possible.

We need clear facts, suggestions, ideas, pros and cons of suggestions.

I’ve made several suggestions, and 90% of them have been implemented in the game, and you don’t know how many more behind-the-scenes suggestions I’ve made that have worked in one way or another.

So I will not tolerate it when they say that the game stands still, that it is bad, etc. It has disadvantages, objective, but there are an order of magnitude more advantages and to breed such cheap manipulations because the author is in a bad mood or he has inspired something to himself is bad.

I’m saying that there is no clear idea in the entire proposal of the author of the post, the solutions, the pros and cons of solutions are not described in detail. Without all this, the sentence itself has no weight, it’s just empty loud phrases about nothing.

Air RB from December 2024 to the past week absolutely stood still, and this post was made within the time frame. To completely disregard the idea that the meta, and the entirety of air rb didnt stay almost identical for the whole year is dumb.

It was 12 months of rafale domination, with no new mechanics introduced, about 1 air map introduced with some gradually changed. The single largest change that happened in air rb was the introduction of air spawns, which really isn’t that significant ((was that even this year?? I cant remember because air rb never gets changed))

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Maybe it’s worth understanding, in this case, that the game is changing, just not right away? If you are now saying that everything has changed, then it means that I was right - the game is changing and developing at its own pace, and this post is no longer completely relevant (and it was even at the time of writing the post).

Funny, time wasn’t good for the author, was it? :)

I know its not changing instantly, but you’ve also just disregarded my point which is that Air RB was completely stationary for a year, something that you say you will “not tolerate it when someone says the game stands still” (((it did btw)))

When the author made the original post, saying it was standing still is absolutely correct, and still held up for 2 months after

Of course, be patient, the game is slowly going its own way, changing, etc.

By the way, there is only one argument in favor of CS:The author’s GO completely shows his misunderstanding of the topic.

Let’s put it this way - this post is just the essence of reddit, which is not a positive sign. I have already described all my arguments, the fact that you translated everything into the fact that the game is not developing fast enough will not work, because this is not the author’s thesis, he had a thesis that the game is not developing

Does reading comprehension just not exist or something?
I’ve never stated that the game isnt developing fast enough, I was simply stating that the game WAS stationary for a year. I’m not expecting the developers to change ARB every update but to not change anything with it for a whole year is crazy and will absolutely invite discussion, especially when there was so obviously one plane dominating practically every match for that time period.

Can also look towards air sim to show that the game isnt developing with that gamemode having practically never been changed for years at this point and every time a question is asked on the state of it its just a copy paste response “No information for right now”

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What an out of touch statement. Are you saying that a better economy would lead to the game dying?

A subscription service should not be the only way to get acceptable rewards.

Even with premium the rewards aren’t stellar. The main culprit is Gaijin tying RP rewards to time spent in battle, and then deliberately shortening the match length with airspawns and 16v16.

A stagnant gamemodes and poor balance. The last meaningful changes to air RB was 16v16 (a truly awful change), the additions of airspawns (not a good change IMO), and the removal of automatic ticket bleed (an amazing change).

Top tier barely changed from when the Rafale was added until the latest update. There weren’t many BR changes, there weren’t new missiles (apart from the R-77-1 and MICA buffs), and there wasn’t any new gameplay features, or just gameplay in general.

The balance is also awful, with 16.3 being very easily achievable by just decompressing 13.0+. 7.0-8.0 is a mess because Gaijin pushed Korean War era jets down, which they did because 9.3/9.7 supersonics were being clubbed by 10.3/10.7 planes that Gaijin added at too low of a BR on release. Even now, Gaijin added objective upgrades of 14.3 planes at 14.3 rather than putting them at 14.7.

I’d expect more in depth combat with more focus on smaller amounts of vehicles, and not the hyper quick/overwhelming state of top tier air RB. It’s a bit ridiculous that your RWR can go off for 90% of an entire match. When a trailer shows 2 planes attacking a column of vehicles in radio contact with a base, I’d expect something similar to be possible in the game. However what we get is a 16v16 TDM match.

100%

The last time a map was added to air sim was 3 years ago, and the gamemode itself has stayed basically identical for the last few years. The biggest changes was the introduction of new AF AA, and the remastering of Sinai and neither of those are sim specific.

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