No. (lmao)
What? (Literally better performance in every aspect)
What (what)
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@Leinadmix9_ツ 50km range, despite being faster as you claim, proving that speed doesn’t give you extra range. I haven’t died to an R-24R in so many years I forgot the last time I did.
Kfir C7 retains energy worse than Kurnass 2000 by 1 degree per second.
Kfir C7 also has a lower peak G limit than Kurnass 2000 due to it being a Mirage 3/5 derivative aircraft.
Lets also ignore that if both missiles are fired at the same time:
More speed and acceleration = reaches the enemy faster/reaches peak maneouverability = enemy dies sooner = enemy´s missile stops tracking = you dont die (MiG-23s dominated the ARB for a whole year for a reason).
Idc about range because if you kill anything past 15km with any missile is because the enemy is just AFK or doesnt have a RWR.
Yes, but you can also use your “S” on the keyboard instead of dumping all of your speed.
Sorry to be the “hmm ackchyually” guy, but:
The Kfir also accelerates way better than the Kurnass, so even if you lose speed faster, you gain it also faster.
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Still doesn’t change the fact Kurnass 2000 retains more energy.
The test is done with trim settings.
Something that has never happened in a single match I’ve played, partially cause I know better.
Statistical improbabilities are not to be taken into account.
Oh hey, the Kfir C7 energy retention turn rate, with a max G pull of 9G, vs the F-4’s 11Gs, which means F-4 pulls better instantaneous as well.
Kurnass 2000:
Slightly better energy retention, mostly due to a second engine for the mass being pushed.
And better instantaneous.
Kfir C7 was good at 11.3, and 12.0 is the new 11.3.
As someone else already said:
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I guess i should, ping me whenever you dont say some bad hot take
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how do you get so many different stats on your HUD?
War Thunder Real Time Information: WTRTI.
I use it for fuel management and study.
Neat, alright
Totally agree with that.
I am trying to grind the plane because I want the AGM65D for ground pound and this shit is abysmal. Unironically the basic Kurnass is infinitely better and more viable than this, with the trash radar and the AIM7E-DFs. And what is the improvement that deserves that 12.3 br? The PD radar? Which you can’t use for anything. Like sure if the plane had some radar missiles with the PD radar, I would understand the 12.3 br and it would be OK, but not like this! This IR only trash truck gets outranged, out flared, and out manoeuvred.
And to all the giga brains screeching: But bUt PyTooooNNN PyYYYTooONN 3
It’s completely worthless, you can easily flare it, but most importantly you need to be within 3km to effectively use it. In a br where they can slam-dunk a SARH missile into your face from 10 km. And even in a magical rainbow unicorn fart quantum superposition scenario where you can get in range, don’t get dunked by SARH missiles, your teammates don’t steal your kill with their SARH missiles, that’s one game from every twenty or forty.
And the issue is not that the Python 3 is a bad missile it’s the FUCKING RANGE, that’s the issue. The AIM9M is also a good missile, and I always carry 2 on my F15/F16, but you would need to be a fucking moron to go into a 13.7 br ARB with a full AIM9M loadout.
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Yeah I’m not sure why people think the python 3 is something special, imo Aim 9L has better flare resistance and range, python has quick acceleration but you have to be super close for it to hit, and even then it takes a second for it to start tracking after launch.
That’s a weird thing to have an opinion on. The current Python 3 seeker is copy pasted from the AIM-9L, they’re the same.
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I have used both plenty and I have more luck with the 9L, either way the python really isn’t an upgrade.
The Python is definitely an upgrade. You can just say that it’s not an IRCCM missile… it’s still the best non-irccm in the game.
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And at the BR they play at means absolutely nothing! Id take a plane with 9L and 7M ANYDAY over only pythons.
Which still gets defeated by 1 flare.
R-60M is far better than aim9J.
R-24R have inertial guidance and also will track just fine if the target is being painted by the radar.
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IOG isn’t tracking you.