Kings of Battle - Rumor Round-Up and Discussion (Part 3)

Okay, I’d much prefer a Mig-29SMT & Su-24 combo for Soviets than just SMT personally.
I do like that I can run IDS & Mig-29 for Germany.
Two Mirages for France when I get the 2000 5F.

again, how many times will you actually be notching?

you still haven’t told me Gs flare count, and who actually uses smt for cas? theres also better alternatives for cas than smt

I mean it’s better to have a multirole fighter and dedicated attacker imo but having to choose between pure fighter and attacker isn’t ideal.

Well, I totally understand what you’re saying. I have been using forums for more than two decades. However, I would like to make a brief reflection at the end of this R&R.
You should never ignore what people want. And what people want is not what two or three guys ask for (the two guys who ask to send spam freely and the two guys who ask for no more spam).
The experience here, over the years, teaches that people want a space to socialize about general issues related to the game. You will see R&R works 5% as a rumor thread and works 95% as a small community of fans of war, history and war thunder, among other things.
Not because two or three people say it, but because the community expresses it that way update after update in each R&R.
Really, I think the only solution to this is to create a space where the community socializes and debates rumors and leave this thread exclusively for factual mining data or publication of leaks. Or simply convert R&R into R&R plus.

It is clear that the format of these forums has expired. Society became accustomed to being permanently connected with other people. Forums precede modern social networks and their format is obsolete. You see, since the new forum is here, many people who were here for decades are no longer here, that was undoubtedly a blow to this small but noisy community. I must make this observation because it seems that the rules can be broken (almost always) except when “certain topics” arise. I’m not saying it’s true, but the feeling is that “the rules” seem like an excuse to silence (I don’t always have that feeling, luckily).



If you actually have any experience in top tier? Many times on many occasions…

60 it’s the same as standard 60 normal flares on the other MiGs

Same people that use F-16A Block 10, F-16C, F-14B etc.

Man I’d love to have alternatives in germany you know… too bad I only have one after Tornado IDS which is the Su-22M4. Russia on the other hand has MiG-27K, Su-25T/BM/Su-39, Su-17M4 and the SMT.

Not to mention the fact that Tornado or Su-22M4 can’t fight enemy CAS. Russia can with MiG-27K and SMT.

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There 's been no evidence that gaijin 's been working on versions of the M2K D other than the RMV, which in tandem w/ the soon-to-be capability gap this particular variant might be able to fill, seems to indicate that those other variants likely will not appear before it - if they are to appear at all.

No surprises here, they’ve been saying that they want to keep the GB Phantoms where they are( and as a result, how they are ) for a very long time now.
What 's more interesting from this repeat response is the explanation on how one particular consideration that 's keeping them this way is the low number of aircraft in GB Rank 7, where they’re currently located - only three other techtrees have fewer researchable aircraft at that research position.

Since efficiency-balancing is variable, it 's likely mainly this that 's resulted in the FG/FGR being kept static in loadout options - therfore, seeing more powerful weapons on one of them is unlikely until we have evidence of additional aircraft( probably fighters in particular ) being added for GB at Rank 7. Something we currently lack.

Not to drift into off topic, but I think we all share the same feelings and can pinpoint a few examples we personally find bothersome.

I’d love to have an F-14esque missile bus, cough cough Su-27 cough cough. It hasn’t come yet and it is what it is.

The grass isn’t always greener on the other side, but yes, I can appreciate wanting a more “attack-like” attack aircraft.

You should try seeing from the other side, USSR players would like to have a more standoff/interdictor type aircraft without having to just do it in the SMT. Ask most USSR “mains” and I’m sure they’ll tell you SMT is nice, but fills a niche and isn’t what they wanted. I think most of them would’ve preferred a MiG-29S and an Su-24.

My view, even though im new its a Rumor Round Up and Discusions, obviously it depends on how you inteprate that but I see it more as general discusion about the current update and war thunder as a whole since there isnt a “General Disscusion” thread like this


he hasnt outright stated anywhere hes gonna start banning people, he only said those with warnings will, and as far as i know, i dont have any

ofc smin if youre reading this, say otherwise

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I wake up not only to the maintenance notice, but also to the Cobi 1/12 Tiger arriving. This is a good day.


Still think we need to give other nations 12.3s before we look at 12.7s like that. Dont forget 2 nations still dont have 12s


Oh no!! you discovered the hidden farce behind the title.

Well, this topic was always like that. What you observe, after many updates, stops being an interpretation and becomes a fact.

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Understood, I’m just pointing out we all have our specific axes to grind, some are just much larger than others.

I felt for you when I read the Q&A today bro. I literally don’t have anything UK past rank 2 and never will, and even I was deeply disappointed, lmao.

Not to be off-topic of course.

God forbid someone becomes part of the solution.

Yeah, todays Q&A confirmed that no Dev has even properly looked at the Britian TT in years. Not too mention actually played any of the aircraft. but Im glad everyone in the comments basically pointed out how wrong they were.

But yeah. I dont mind those aircraft coming sooner rather than later. But I just fear the gap widening faster than its closed. Even if Britain, Sweden and those without 12.3s get additions, that a few nations are going to go to 12.7 and the slim hope we have for even a brief window of competitiveness will be closed before its even opened. Would be nice for the Soviets and the US to just have an update off, with no additions for a change.


He seems too make it clear that eventually they will begin too take more steps too stopping people who don’t follow thread rules.

Also I whish messages could be pinned like in the past…


Yea even TEC was like what the hell you done that with the harriers why not the phantoms.

But yea I think now gaijin has a policy to not give Britain a good fighter in the fighter line


It will be my mission to keep the next one on topic

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I strongly believe that Gaijin have a policy to not give Britain anything good, in any TT and have done so for well over a year.

We havent actually gotten a single competitive or good addition in the past year. Everything has a giant Handicap that makes it almost unplayable or certainly bottom tier.


I think its been since the Hunter F.1/F.6 and maybe once they buffed the FGR the first time since Britain has been caught up

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