Kings of Battle - Rumor Round-Up and Discussion (Part 2)

Are you seriously comparing these to the Eurofighter?

As I’ve said before, we are entering an era of combat planes that cannot really be balanced with historical aircraft configurations and the nations we have in the game
The F-4F ICE wouldn’t even be good as a stopgap for BVRAAM capabilities, as it is such a horribly outdated platform compared to F-15s, Su-27s, etc

Well we’re not going to get the most modern version of the Eurofighter first so the F-15C or F-16C or F/A-18C would be more than enough.
Of course, if you don’t think so then we can jump straight to the F-22 and render all other aircraft obsolete :)

An armed trainer/light attack focused update would be cool

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Yeah sadly… only some Wunderwaffe type beat.

Yeah for EF2000 we would need some high-end modernizations of these jets. Such as F-16V, F-15EX etc.

EF2000 would wipe the floor with F-14D for example.

No i was just saying the f22 was adopted a bit after the eurofighter but i wasn’t saying they should be added together

If we’re being specific about Canards being part of the equivalent, there’s always my absolute favorite flanker :)

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anyone still know about optic zoom of new mi8amtsh heli?

If you’re talking about prototype Eurofighters sure but even first tranches would be much better than F/A-18C, F-16C (unless fitted with AESA) or F-15C. You need something like F/A-18F or F-15E.

Those canards are weak

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It’s only two years :)
But seriously, the three Cs would be enough for a plane that came out several years after they did.
Of course it doesn’t matter to me since Gaijins horrible progression system has locked me out of US Rank 8 for the foreseeable future.

I need this together with T-2 CCV. Gaibob please

Yees but neither carried weapons ( i mean, the F-4 probably could but defo not the T-2 CCV, the CCV plane was literally the 3rd production airframe and the T-2 itself was still undergoing testing at that time AFAIK)

We need a whole update with just goofy proposed or prototype variants of existing planes
Wing sweep and canard Phantom
Wing sweep Lightning
Wing sweep Gnat
Canard T-2
Canard Draken
VTOL and wing sweep Mirage III

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Cough in Rafales

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Haven’t heard anything yet.

Pound for pound, at that BR, it would be an ordinance boat. Same Shturm count as Ka-29, but with 8 Igla’s as well (like the Ka-52), while ALSO stilll having S-8’s. Should be a little clunkier than the Mi-24, but I’d believe you if you said it was still faster.

Question is, would the competitive balance here be giving the Mi-8ATMSh better zoom and/or optical track, or is the ordinance already enough as is?

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Don’t forget about the Su-47 :)

Jesus, I never realised how many helicopters some nations already have

Japan and the UK still only have 4 TT helis while the some of the other trees actually have helis that are bordering on duplicate territory

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The radar is based upon the Blue Vixen, which in itself is best compared to the APG 73 found on things like the F-15C. Id imagine in relative performance its comparible to early AESA radars though it is still mechanical. In overall capaibilities, it probably isnt far off the F-15C, and that general class of Gen 4s. But the key difference is that it will be stronger in WVR. The game dynamic will flip completely. With US and USSR being equal or superior in BVR but inferior in WVR. Think F-16C vs Tornado F3 but in reverse but not quite so completely one sided.

Based upon an assumption we’ll see F-15s and equivalents at 12.7 this December. I reckon we could and more importantly should see the first set of prototype typhoons around Q2 next year at around BR13. with some limitations such as some missing control systems, and more limited loadout capabilies

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